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Some of you might recall my earlier journal entry, relating to one particular Swans fan:
http://www.last.fm/user/stormchasar/journal/2009/01/26/2fk1sd_some_people_just_are_dicks%28or%2C_my_struggle_with_a_tiny_tiny_woman%29

However, as I discovered from posting on Swans' shoutbox, there's more.
Firstly, this guy:
Every time I see stormchasar in the shoutbox of a band I like, I die a little inside.
Okay, for one thing, I've never even seen him before. Secondly, I'm not really sure where I got this rep - maybe because I dare to like EBM and not like Throbbing Gristle? People round here don't take kindly to people with opinions different than theirs.

Then, this:
I bet that he does [hate anime], since he has good taste.
As soon as someone says that, you know they're ignorant. Anime is not a genre. It is a format. Two animes can have nothing in common with each other other than being drawn and being from Japan. That can be literally it. Hence, to hate anime is logically to hate something based on rootless prejudice. You can't get much more ignorant.

Pretty much from the time I said "swans are industrial and stormchasar never paid for his copy of white light from the mouth of infinity", a sarcastic rebuke to two outrageous made my lmplications, the abuse started. FOR SOME REASON.
I'm so glad I'm better than Stormchaser.
If you have to skip tracks on a release, it can't be a very good release. So, stormchasar, you don't actually even like Swans and you should go away from internet.
That last one especially is funny. For one, statistically I like Swans more than he does. Second, does anyone actually agree that a release isn't very good if you skip tracks? I consider a release good if it's 60% good tracks. Because most releases aren't that good.

I'm sorry that you like to look at pictures of anime girls, but you need to stop being wrong so much about things that actually matter, such as Swans.
Not really, you just have bad taste.
People got super pissed at me when I said that I consider only The Great Annihilator and Filth to be excellent releases by Swans. By the way, I've listened to more Swans than most of these people.

Wow, I've witnessed many great catastrophes in this shoutbox (I've even been an active part in some of them), but stormchasar is really pushing the limits.
Basically all my posts were just defending myself... I took a lot of shit apparently for no reason, then I said, "why am I taking this shit?", and then I took a lot more shit just for saying that.

Listen Stormchasar. Anime avatars and Lacuna Coil fanboyism might be acceptable in the MASONNA shoutbox, but this is the fucking big leagues, okay
Where he got the idea that I'm a Lacuna Coil fanboy, I'm not really sure. And, he's making fun of anime again. See above.

I don't want to be some bitter loser who picks on kids, you know? But damn this particular kid is so fucking annoying. It's like, what would you do if some little shit was all jumping up in your face saying stupid shit? You'd deck the fucker right?
It's more like I walked into the room, said "hey guys", people started yelling at me, and then I jumped around trying to get them to stop yelling, really. This guy's not helping.



Finally, a stupid quote that has nothing to do with abusing me\:
Its pretty disappointing how Swans one of the most darkest honest bands ever is being enjoyed by pubescent boys and girls who are looking to expand their horizons by hopping on whatever the "what's cool" train has to offer. Its because of you why bands start to lose their original appeal. Swans and Joy Division are the new gateway bands for people to look diverse. (note) This does not apply to the true Swans fans.
What a douche. Don't most people get past the whole "you're not a TR00 FAN" thing at about age 13? Isn't it good enough just to listen to it and appreciate it? And since when is Swans on the cool train?



Then I started getting crap from people who apparently hopped on the "abuse stormchasar" bandwagon by browsing the Swans shoutbox.

go back to 4chan
You're a 15 year old with an animu avatar who thinks they know anything about music. I'd say you're from 4chan.
The above Porcupine Tree and Opeth fan apparently thinks:
a) All anime fans are from 4Chan.
b) Being from 4Chan is somehow bad.
c) Listening to Porcupine Tree, Opeth, and conspicuously no bands that are respected in post-industrial circles gives him the right to make fun of me.

Just because I don't listen to much noise doesn't mean I don't know anything about it. Besides I've only been on this damn site three weeks, I haven't exactly played through everything I have.
I'm not even really sure where that came from... He said something making fun of noise or something(can't really remember and can't find the original shout), then I pointed out that he didn't listen to any, and then he got all defensive about how he knows stuff about it despite not listening to any. Sorry, but playcounts mean more than just wholeheartedly assuring me that you know your stuff.

No, a 13 year old would be listening to Fall Out Boy and the like. But remember, it's a good excuse to say "I HAVENT LISTENED TO THOSE BANDS FOR LIKE A YEAR." See, if I were to use that argument on you, you'd be likened to that of a typical mallrat, which I wouldn't put far beyond you.

And then you got into shitty mediocre shoegaze and noise. A fair trade I suppose.
This is the guy with the hilariously immature taste again. This time, he somehow got the idea that I like shoegaze. Did I mention that I don't own a single shoegaze album, or like a single shoegaze band? Well, I don't.


it sounds like shit to turn away people who don't actually appreciate the genre. duh
Him again. Well... yeah.

That sure took you a long time to come up with, kiddo.
Him again. Maybe it's just this guy that's a douche? It's because I was getting another keyboard, because the one I was using crapped out on me. He also called Masonna "shite" in the next post, so, like...


lmfao. You sure have the mind of a 15 year old, that's certain now.
What I said to him was "Your music taste is just kind of terrible all round, so sorry I listen to bands you can't understand." Apparently I have the mind of a 15 year old because I listen to (sorry, hate to use the term, but I can't think of anything else) mature music. Seriously, is there anyone smart who would honestly say that the guy with Swans and Masonna in his top 5 is less musically mature than the guy with Porcupine Tree and Swallow The Sun?

While everybody's throwing their 2 cents on industrial directly into the styrofoam cup of your shoutbox: have you checked out early SPK yet? Far more, er, unwelcoming than TG.
be_quiet_peter. A man who knows his stuff. Probably better than any of these pretentious dicks who I've written this article about. He inquired in friendly tones, do I like SPK? Somewhat, I politely replied.
He's also one of the only people who isn't under the weird delusion that Swans are industrial. Seriously, aside from industrial-influenced sounds on Filth, there's hardly anything industrial about them. I can't pick out a single industrial element on The Great Annihilator, really. Ever hear of the term post-industrial? It's a good phrase. Useful for stuff like Current 93, which came out of industrial circles and still regularly experiments, but really can't be considered "industrial" due to all the, like, strummed acoustic guitars 'n'shit.

Before anyone comments: Yes, this journal entry is to make myself feel better. Yes, it is a little "butthurt". I'm pissed that people are abusing me for no reason, and that these guys on my shoutbox are making fun of me despite being the kind of kid that... well, I've already made my case above.
I take abuse on noise shoutboxes as well, but at least then it's when I actually did stupid stuff. I have said some pretty dumb stuff on, say, Guilty Connector's shoutbox, and I was reprimanded accordingly. But with Swans, it's just kind of, like, 12-year-old style cyberbullying.

Jesus, this was a long-ass journal entry.