JamesLebowski

sm4ears escreveu:

"personally, I really love the emotional quality i hear in this music because it has alot of ambivalence, complexity, and richness about it." - i was talking about klezmer (also other types of traditional Jewish music) in general. the cracow klezmer band is definitely very dark and would never be played at any wedding. except mine, maybe :-D

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sm4ears escreveu:

really had to google this Henry Jones Senior and Marcus Brody thing :-D

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sm4ears escreveu:

with pleasure! talking about marriage in general, I totally agree that it's pure tragedy :-D but i was talking about klezmer as a folk tradition within a rather closed cultural community. and if you'd attend a Hassidic wedding in williamsburg or borough park, brooklyn, the general impression would be joyousness. this equation of jewish=melancholy is a good old stereotype, imo. an outsider might hear klezmer and think it sounds tragic and of course sadness and melancholy is expressed in Jewish music as well, as in any other people's music, too. it's this generalization I'm sceptic about. personally, I really love the emotional quality i hear in this music because it has alot of ambivalence, complexity, and richness about it. but i really wonder inhowfar certain tones, scales tropes etc have an essential meaning (like minor=sad, major=happy). i think that's really arbitrary, but still a very central way of how we interpret and experience music.

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sm4ears escreveu:

mars volta's de loused impressed me quite a lot back then. francis the mute was good, too but then they lost me - too much "prog" of the bad type, imho. AND jon theodore quit, who is one of the greatest drummers out there.

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WillOtheWisp666 escreveu:

ANd what do you think of the Mars Volta? If you haven't listened to them much please don't write them off as some shitty hipster band (though their fans suck, and they're very popular), and I'd recommend listening to all their albums in chronicalogical order. In this case, i'd think you'd like their most unaccessible album Amputechture (which is the best) but usually i'd recommend their debut de-loused, but you're actually into avant-garde music so this is different. They're not that avant-garde, btw. More like "Prog-rock" which is a "genre" i don't like, because it's basically going against what "prog" bands are all about in the 1st place.

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WillOtheWisp666 escreveu:

yeah dude, Ugnayan's on my christmas list, as I don't have much money lately. How is it? Anyways, what are your two cents on Painkiller and The Moonchild Trio? I see you like Laswell, do you like Praxis? Zorn and Eye are on "Sacrifist", it's insane. And you have lots of Sir Richard Bishop plays, are you into Sun City Girls, if so what are some of your favourite albums of theirs? Mine is High Asia, from the Folklore resurrection whatever series.

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sm4ears escreveu:

tragic battle hymns - I like that description! although, i'm not sure about klezmer being tragic or sad, etc, etc. I think that's a bit of a misunderstanding. traditionally, klezmer is wedding music, or played at other celebrations. jewish history might be dark and tragic, but I wonder if that makes you play melancholic music all the time ;-) It's more of a cliche, I think. (Sorry, complicating the picture is a bad habit of mine ;-) Cheers!

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volta1995 escreveu:

lol. have you ever been to lebowskifest?

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