good guys, just never got creative outside of Ryans guitar stylings. In all, better bands never made it out of ICT. So give the credit of enduring when most bands would have folded shop. If Isaac ever stopped smoking long enough to write something relevant they might have had something.
Theyre ok, for rapcore standards but i think their delivery lacks a lot. The singer has to be a Zack DelaRocha fan! lol
Other than that, for a day of working out or playing out of ur car, id recommend this band.