Rush Limbaugh

MiloDC escreveu:

I guess we figure we can discuss ideas wherever. If you want to wait until you have an Indian rug to sit on and a cup of Earl Grey to sip before saying something worth hearing, be my guest. Meanwhile, I'll take on people who I think are wrong wherever I find them. Deal?

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Deinaye escreveu:

wow u guys are aruging politics on the last.fm rush limbaugh shoutbox how sophisticated does it get

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MiloDC escreveu:

"... just because there is some level of disappointment with the Obama administration does not mean that those people are in favor of conservative policies or becoming more conservative..." Er, yes, if we stop at the notion that people are mostly disappointed with Obama, then yes, we cannot conclude that they want to become more conservative (many of these people are anxious far leftists who fear that Obama is not moving government far and fast *enough* to the left). However, if we do NOT stop at that notion, and look further, at how people are reacting, at what they are saying, at the nature and volume of the recent protests against the left's designs on health care, at the ever waning respect for mainstream news outlets (who are openly leftist, and who continue to back Obama even as their viewership and circulations sicken and wither away), then we can make more definite assertions about the ideological predilections of most Americans.

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MiloDC escreveu:

"my point is that if you don't like people on the left saying mean things about people on the right, be the bigger man and lead by example..." Assuming leading by example would do any good, right? Many times I've walked that high road, and the problem with it is that people like the infiltrators of this group -- i.e. *haters* -- couldn't care less about any manifestations of decency on the other side. Their objective coming in is *destruction*, not a back and forth of mutual objectivity, and in that case, taking the high road is like letting a sociopath pound you in the hopes that his capacity for compassion will kick in before you're dead. The high road is definitely the way to go in some cases, but NOT when you are dealing with haters. George W. Bush always took the high road of responding to the most vitriolic criticism imaginable -- of which there was a voluminous amount -- in the most decent manner possible, if he responded at all. And look where it got him.

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pgee13 escreveu:

I am not "pulling your ass", which would only be possible if it was very saggy anyway (and it very well might be- it is not a big deal though if it is). my point is that if you don't like people on the left saying mean things about people on the right, be the bigger man and lead by example; use your wit and knowledge for good, not evil. for example: "ex-leftists who converted to sanity after having the decency (and, for some, the courage) to give his show an objective listen for a few days." Implications of this statement are that all people on the left are insane, and typically indecent and cowardly. Talking about your fellow citizens like this is not a good way to make friends. Also, just because there is some level of disappointment with the Obama administration does not mean that those people are in favor of conservative policies or becoming more conservative, just as disappointment within the right about the Bush admin. did not necessarily make those more liberal.

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pgee13 escreveu:

Reading list: Mark Rank, "One Nation, Underprivileged"; Steven Greenhouse, "The Big Squeeze"; Jacob Hacker, "The Great Risk Shift"; Peter Gosselin, "High Wire" Those books reveal that the upward mobility of American society is more or less a myth, people who suffer big financial falls like the one you describe generally don't return to their former position, and American poverty affects people at all levels of the SES spectrum. These books are very well researched and their arguments are backed by facts, not opinions.

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MiloDC escreveu:

"smearing the names of half the country dehumanizes them and shuts out their voices." LOL, you read the comments on this page and accuse *me* of smears and dehumanization?? I am not the one saying "God hates [name]," that [name] is a "douche bag," that [name]'s listeners enjoy listening to a "bile-spewing asshat," etc. How does all of that compare to the "vitriol" that you accuse me of writing? Quit pulling my ass. Also, I reject the assertion that half the country is represented by the leftists in this comments section. Given the polls of the last several months, and the overall mood of dissatisfaction and disappointment with the Obama administration, I'd say you're lucky if the number is 30% -- though you might think it's higher if you limit your social circles, information sources, and art to whatever caters to your comfy, far left predilections. (FOX's Red Eye is on at 3 a.m. and it gets higher ratings than CNN's 8 p.m. programming, LOL!)

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MiloDC escreveu:

"your argument that various wars have been entered into by democrats does not address the point it is supposed to argue against." It wasn't meant to address the broader point that America gets into pointless wars. It was meant to address the *implication* that America getting into pointless wars is the exclusive province of the right wing (assuming the premise that America does that is even valid, which I don't believe it is).

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MiloDC escreveu:

"Our long-standing successes have resulted in thirteen percent of the country living under poverty at any given time. Citizens have over a fifty percent chance of living under poverty for a year or more during their lifetime." So what? People move in and out of assorted levels of prosperity their entire lives. Just two years ago, I owned three houses in Southern California and was earning a lot higher salary than I have now. I'm now living in an apartment and making far less than I did before; as I work to get back on my feet, I expect to return to my former levels of financial success in a few years. People have up years and down years as they get or lose jobs, take risks, enjoy windfall gains, suffer crippling tax burdens in Democrat states (which I did), etc. What's dangerous is the left's belief that they can engineer society such that fewer people suffer hardship by limiting freedoms and forcing the citizenry to pay for their machinations.

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pgee13 escreveu:

@milo again: -your argument that various wars have been entered into by democrats does not address the point it is supposed to argue against. same goes for your argument that rush cannot be a bile-spewer because some pundits on the left are. -you can't change the reasons for entering into war with iraq. -you would do very well to take your own advice and listen to people with an open mind. very few leftists are communists, which is made clear by understand what the term actually means. furthermore, smearing the names of half the country dehumanizes them and shuts out their voices (which is not what democracy is about). nor does it entice anyone with who you disagree to listen to your points. your hatred and vitriol could be attributed to the very man that you are defending as not being hateful or vitriolic.

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pgee13 escreveu:

@milo: -Our long-standing successes have resulted in thirteen percent of the country living under poverty at any given time. Citizens have over a fifty percent chance of living under poverty for a year or more during their lifetime. This is especially pronounced for ethnic minorities, unmarried women, and children. -The Human Development Index is a statistical measure kept by the UN of economic prosperity, access to education, and lifespan. It has no bias towards promoting big government, it is merely to keep track of the well-being of peoples of the world. It was invented to give a more accurate picture of living conditions than nations' GDPs. -No one is "pulling [your] ass"; Rush is not an angel. Nor is it "insane" or "animalistic" to not like Palin. She is unqualified for most things, has little knowledge of foreign affairs. To most objective observers, it is clear that she was introduced into the presidential race for her sex appeal to offset the lack thereof of Sen. McCain.

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optimistic_tour escreveu:

Rush eats taliban babies for breakfast and picks his teeth with al qaeda bones!

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WhoMadeCookies escreveu:

Please follow my lead and get your tags correct. Thank you.

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WhoMadeCookies escreveu:

You tagged Rush Limbaugh with genital mutilation, closet homosexualcore and fatcore. just now

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WhoMadeCookies escreveu:

Genius, even better at trolling than Bill "Papa Bear" O'Reilly.

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MiloDC escreveu:

nymphomation: "I grew up listening to Rush. I'm extremely familiar with his brand of commentary." LOL, care to expound on that? What "brand of commentary" do you mean? Is he too pugnacious for you? Too plainspoken? Too confident in his beliefs? Too dismissive of leftist dogma in his constant ridicule of it? Too sure of the degree to which the ideas of his ideological opponents are inimical to the nation? Too quick to get to the dark, unsavory underbelly of leftist thought, mired as it is in blinding arrogance, infantile aspirations toward complete security and equal outcomes for all, and an overall contempt for humanity in general and white Americans in particular? I mean, come on, one-up your fellows in this shoutbox; don't just resort to name-calling and unsubstantiated, matter-of-fact proclamations. Back up your sh!t-talking. Bring it.

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bunkerkoniev escreveu:

scottiscool. Norway got shitload of: wood, minerals, energy (from short but fast rivers). They ain`t got many ppl to feed because nobody wants to live in the North Pole :)

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PureBlueSF escreveu:

I have tried listening to him for extended periods of time and I seriously regret it. I hate him just as much as I hate the New York Times and MSNBC.

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