Kroda

Wolfish_Rage escreveu:

@Mechanix: I suppose this "superior" guy doesn't believe in reasoning.

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Mechanix escreveu:

Great comeback there

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UlvhedinGrom escreveu:

you're pathetic, douchebag.

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Wolfish_Rage escreveu:

Once again, they are not arguments. You must not read English very well or something. No one needs you here being a jaded prick either. Fuck off, I can really care less if you "know Kroda"..that's just a claim which cannot be confirmed. Even if you do know them, that doesn't save you from being an asshole. I'm done giving you any reason to type your arrogant, nonsensical ramblings...

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UlvhedinGrom escreveu:

Wolfish_Rage, all of your arguments are based on surmises and assumptions, while I am telling you what I know from personal communication with members of KRODA. That's why you can leave your philosophizing for yourself. No one here needs it anyway. Read more about deductive method of Sherlock Holmes and, perhaps, you'll ba able to write a detective story which shall become a bestseller.

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Nazgul969 escreveu:

Awesome stuff!! \m/

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Cassandra-Leo escreveu:

I thought the beliefs of Kroda's members were pretty well well documented. Obviously Kroda's original music doesn't have any overt political themes and thus it'd be absurd to class their music as political, but I'd say their choice of festivals to play pretty much makes it clear where their sympathies lie. I disagree with them, but it won't stop me from listening to their music - people are entitled to their beliefs after all, and this is some pretty rewarding music.

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Mechanix escreveu:

Wolfish_Rage, I must say I like your optimistic approach to try and reason with some (possible) Ukranian nazi fetishist.

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Wolfish_Rage escreveu:

Also, for someone who wished to call my "arguments" (if you can call them that?) pitiful, you're not some master debater yourself. You should know that throwing personal insults, like "idiot" and "fool" around doesn't strengthen the credibility of your point. Also, your telling me to not read the "antifa newsletter" is a complete red herring. I never once said Kroda was NSBM... ever. Scroll down, and you can see where I clearly said "I NEVER SAID KRODA'S MUSIC WAS ABOUT NS". Is the notion of an apolitical band with politically oriented members that hard for you to fathom? I really could care less if they're Nazis or not, I'm merely stating details that would lead one (such as myself) to believe that these guys are nazis. Stop taking yourself so seriously, if people like me are such fools, and you're so above the fools, then why do you bother to acknowledge my presence?

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Wolfish_Rage escreveu:

@UlvhedinGrom; Ok man, calm down, pull that stick out of your butt, and hear me out. I'm not here trying to be angry, or argumentative, merely listing things which (to me) makes me think that Kroda's members are nazi. Concerning Lut'; if you know and listen to this band, then you cannot deny the vocal resemblance of Lut's vocalist and Eisenslav. I don't live in the Ukraine, so I can't say who is really behind that project, but you cannot blame me for for thinking it was Eisenslav, because it really sounds just like him. As for Svarga, can you blame me for assuming that they were NSBM, considering the "sieg heil!" shouts at the end of "The Only Front"? I mean, if the other members aren't into National Socialism, then why would they allow such slogans to be shouted on their record? As for Eisenslav's picture, he looks just like any typical skinhead in that picture. The shaved head, the swastika shirt, the bomber jacket...all popular fashions amongst NS Skinheads.

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OddechLodu escreveu:

wow/

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UlvhedinGrom escreveu:

7. I do not fucking know why in the world he was yelling that, but what does Eisenslav has to do with ex-vocalist?! 8. Viterzgir is a famous designer and a lot of different people addressed him to help them with design for web-site or booklet. 9. As far as I know, Eisenslav didn't respond them with Sieg Heil from the scene. And the fact that he thanked to German part of the audience for hailing the band in German - what's "fascist" about that? Or he had to flee the scene in horror having heard the German speech in the hall? What kind of arguments are those? Looks like another Nuremberg trial. Any court will make fun of you for your indirect arguments and accusations. Sometimes it's better to keep silence than write nonsense and make people laugh. 10. KRODA more than once made a statement that they are not NSBM band. If you like it - listen to them, dont like it - do not listen. But stop writing stupid fucking shit here!

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UlvhedinGrom escreveu:

6. Covers don't mean anything except musical taste. Kroda covered HYPOCRISY... So what? Eisenslav believes in UFO?! What the hell?! People cover whatever they want... They cover bands that they like musically. You cannot judge the bands' ideology on the basis of bands that they listen to or cover. KRODA more than once made a statement that they are not NSBM band. If you like it - listen to them, dont like it - do not listen. Simple as that. But you'll have to live with it anyways. But there's always some internet-know-all who have read somewhere that another wiseacre (per se instigator) has written that the band is supposedly NS. And in reality such statements do no good but sabotage band's activity. Don't you understand this? If you like KRODA - read the lyrics deeply, instead of the articles of "antifa" dictators, listen to KRODA's music attentively, and do not judge on the ground of covers. KRODA is mythology, history, nature's mysteries, but not politics!

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UlvhedinGrom escreveu:

5. Concerning photos... Does a shaved head mean political orientation?! And an eagle with swastika on the T-shirt was worn during the photo-session for the mini-album "Legend", where the author of the lyrics is a Ukrainian poet, murdered by communists in GULAG camps. Eisenslav's clothes worn during this session symbolize anti-communistic idea. Red terror took millions of lives in the Ukraine. Much more than WWII. THat's why you should consider this photo-session only in context of anti-communistic symbolism.

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UlvhedinGrom escreveu:

1. The fact that you've read somewhere that supposedly LUT' has KRODA members doesn't prove anything except that the world is full of idiots like you. One fool said something, another have repeated it in multitude of blogs, so what? Does that mean it's the truth? 2. The track Subhumanheim of VOLHV is full of contempt towards all humanity. It narrates about Midgardr as a world of Subhumans. Read the lyrics and you'll see for yourself that under Subhumans christians are meant, but there's not a single word about racial belonging. 3. Concerning the "beilef in ZOG". It was all about some World Government. About conspiracy in politics. 4. Aryan Regards in that same interview. What's so difficult to understand here? Aryans is a scientific term, which is used as a synonym of the word "European". And there's nothing political about that. Or you deny the existence of Europeans?

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Kevmaster escreveu:

Does anyone know where their name comes from?

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Ash_1065 escreveu:

It's ridiculous to suggest at least Eisenslav isn't a firm believer of NS, and/or Nazi ideology. More "Evidence" if it can be called that, when they were playing in Finland, there were people sig heiling to them, and Eisenslav said "Thank you for the kind regards". I'm not insulting him, I'm fine with it.. But I do think it's obvious.

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SdCloud69 escreveu:

that's just their way of trying to keep the antifa dogs from sniffing around, too bad it doesn't work lol.

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