Imminent Starvation

Shirow_XL escreveu:

He still produces music under both names. Why, I wonder.

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zilot escreveu:

охуительно, просто охуительно

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MKDELTA escreveu:

I didn't believe he'd do any new material but I am DELIGHTED. Just ordered the Cask Strenght boxset.

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lautkot escreveu:

I am awaiting CASK STRENGTH! starvation ..

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orbleflex escreveu:

the new album is a masterpiece once again!

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thehumanweapon escreveu:

a true master of innovation. lost highway 45 on "intelligent inside" was the reason i yahoo'ed rhythmic noise and found out that such awesome music existed

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square_m escreveu:

2 orbreflex: sintec said a very correct thing - "it'd force the media industries to keep hunting for something new to make them money rather than relying on constant reissues of 'classics'". Download portal is exactly this case with an exception that it's much more cheaper for seller to produce and distribute the product. Another note is about download portals. Did you hear about Flashbulb & iTunes conflict? In few words, iTunes started to sell Flashbulbs stuff without musician approval. I always thought, iTunes is a legal portal, but as you can see sometimes there's no profit for musician at all. Prooflink for your reference - http://torrentfreak.com/pirated-by-itunes-artist-turns-to-bittorrent-080206/.

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orbleflex escreveu:

@ squqr_m: thank you for pointing out that i don't think enough before i speak. having had a second thought i now clearly see why it's only logical to pirate underground music when the cd is out of print. especially when it's still available in every legal download portal.

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square_m escreveu:

2 orbreflex: the last Imminent Starvation release was made 10 years ago, in 1999 (i don't count re-release of __previously released rare tracks__ as digital Archive.One on Ant-Zen in 2008). If Imminent Starvation is the only side-project of Olivier that I like (let's imagine), then it's not active, please don't mix with all other Olivier's outputs & collaborations (i suppose you mean that case). Your fail then. Spend money on what? On cd's that aren't exist anymore except few used ones on eBay? As i already told, this won't feed all men who want listen to this stuff in any case. Think twice, say once. Summarizing, there's nothing insulting in spreading this via torrents.

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square_m escreveu:

2 sintec: with one correction - i'd cut the copyright period to about 5 years only :)

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square_m escreveu:

2 sintec: the last sentence is absolutely right, this is the main idea i tried to say.

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orbleflex escreveu:

imminent is not active anymore? fatal error. not willing to spend money on him anymore? you're crazy. as important as mickey mouse or the beatles? you're getting closer.

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sintec escreveu:

imminent is still active as far as I'm aware. I feel that you have the concept of copyright a little wrong, it is to recompense artists for their work. This obviously has the effect of encouraging artists to make another album or whatever but it isn't the sole purpose. These people (I include the record label, graphic artists e.t.c. here) worked very hard and invested a lot of time and money into making these releases so is it not right to show some respect and pay them for that work? As regards Mickey Mouse and the Beatles this is a totally different argument. These artists have already made a fortune from their work and as you've pointed out they no longer receive the money from copyright payments anyway. Personally I'd have copyrights last a lot shorter time (20 years tops) apart from anything else it'd force the media industries to keep hunting for something new to make them money rather than relying on constant reissues of 'classics'.

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square_m escreveu:

Well, the main idea of all this copyright shit was just to give artists (musicians) an opportunity (in form of money support) for their creativity, to allow them make new stuff. Since Imminent is not active anymore, any money recieved by unlimited mp3/flac/whatever sales won't enjoy us with a new album or ep. Therefore, it has no sense to remind about legal or illegal ways of picking up the music. I'd say, it's similarly senseless as paying for usage of Mickey Mouse character that is over 70 years old, even when it's father already passed away a long ago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act). Or same thing regarding Beatles songs (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_owns_copyright_for_Beatles_songs). This tendency is really worrying.

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EmongFM escreveu:

I guess the rest will have to go for iTunes or something else as fantastic =| My personal opinion is that Ant-zen should rerelease the albums, hopefully with the vinyl EPs remastered as bonus discs :)

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square_m escreveu:

several dozens of cds wont really satisfy 800 dudes (lets take 10% of listeners amount here) who wanna listen to Imminent's stuff, dont you think? :)

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TeLeevisie escreveu:

What Vorbedacht said. Check Discogs, you can find dozens of his albums for sale there.

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Vorbedacht escreveu:

You can still acquire the albums in a legal format.

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