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Anton Bruckner, compositor e sinfonista austríaco nasceu em 1824. Estudou como professor de escola e organista, e foi nessa qualidade que trabalhou em Linz, Áustria, até se mudar em 1868 para Viena para ensinar harmonia, contraponto e órgão no Conservatório de Viena. O seu sucesso como compositor não foi constante ao longo da sua vida, sendo a sua aceitação muitas vezes condicionada pela sua própria insegurança e as suas partituras traziam problemas editoriais, devido à sua prontidão em revê-las e alterá-las. Bruckner continuou a tradição austríaco-germânica de grandes escalas, sendo a sua técnica de composição influenciada pela sua destreza como organista e consequentemente a improvisação formal. Sua sinfonia mais popular é a No. 4 em Mi Bemol Maior.
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  • MetalManni escreveu:
    Quarta à noite
    Symphony No. 6, 1st movement FTW!

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  • Conservationist escreveu:
    agosto 2009
    Bruckner's attitude reminds me of Schopenhauer: seeking quietude through intense realization. Mahler is more neurotic, dramatic.

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  • Taxes escreveu:
    junho 2009
    Very interesting article indeed, and remarkably well balanced too, I would have thought that in the context when it was written, that he would have put more emphasis on the similarities between the two. 1940 is still a while before both Bruckner and Mahler reached the peak of popularity that we can see today (and this especially true in the latter case), seems to me that in such a case it would have been very tempting to exaggerate the points of agreement between those two then negliged composers.

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  • Taxes escreveu:
    junho 2009
    I agree with that, that's probably something that comes from the respective personalities of the two composers. Walter says something in the same vein when he mentions that "at bottom Bruckner's spirit was repose, Mahler's unrest." which he follows with the also very accurate: "Bruckner's musical message stems from the sphere of the saints; in Mahler speaks the impassioned prophet.". So I think that this "social" dimension to Mahler's music in contrast to Bruckner's more introspective character is something that he understood fully.

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  • zunari escreveu:
    junho 2009
    He died virgin

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  • CreamCat escreveu:
    junho 2009
    Interesting article, Taxes. Although Mahler and Bruckner have undeniable similarities, there is one fundemental difference, I think. Bruckner is a much more "existential" composer in the sense that his music deals with existence itself. At least in his symphonies, there's no room for other persons than the listener. It's you left alone with the mountains and the valleys - while you search for any proof that you actually exist in a psychological sense. Mahler was a much more "social" composer. His music could only exist in between human relations.

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  • Taxes escreveu:
    junho 2009
    Some interesting stuff here http://www.uv.es/~calaforr/walter.html, the famous Bruno Walter essay on the nature of Bruckner and Mahler. It's nice to see him note the parenting between Schubert and the two later composers, and unsurprisingly perhaps, his Bruckner Seventh is some of the most Schubertian non Schubert that I've heard. Holy fucking walls of text though, when will you silly German speaking people ever learn? :o

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  • CreamCat escreveu:
    maio 2009
    Vienna...it's all about cake and hatred.

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  • ArousedNinja escreveu:
    maio 2009
    Ok, good. Hug accepted. Also, most of my friends who like to irrationally hate on Bruckner, like me, admit that he was an excellent composer. I don't know, people from Vienna feel entitled to hate on him.

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  • CreamCat escreveu:
    maio 2009
    ArousedNinja: Believe it or not, I wasn't too serious myself with that comment. *hug*

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  • ArousedNinja escreveu:
    maio 2009
    People who are in serious need of a corkscrew.

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  • Taxes escreveu:
    maio 2009
    No but seriously, what kind of twisted person would someone have to be to dislike something like the Seventh?!

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  • ArousedNinja escreveu:
    maio 2009
    And CreamFreud, -10 points for those hasty assumptions. I am actually objective enough to appreciate Bruckner's music, and I have listened to his symphonies and 'understood' them. I don't like Bruckner for shallow reasons, and even if I didn't, I'd pretend I do anyway, just to get reactions like yours. But you can 'learn' me any time.

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  • ArousedNinja escreveu:
    maio 2009
    Ah my bad. Someone else told me about the three Bs thing and I didn't bother to check, in my pointless rage. Which means there is only one conclusion, fuck Bruckner AND Wagner. But yeah you got the Viennese sarcasm right, because that's where I'm from.

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  • kaisertallico escreveu:
    maio 2009
    Totally agree with CreamCat.

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  • CreamCat escreveu:
    maio 2009
    One day when I bother, if that day ever comes, I'll learn you f*cktards how to appreciate BOTH Brahms and Bruckner. But I ain't the Messiah or anything, so don't expect that to happen anytime soon...The point is if you can't concentrate long enough to listen through a Bruckner symphony, you're probably too dumb to understand it anyway.

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  • KraeheK escreveu:
    maio 2009
    Haha, thanks for the luls, ArousedNinja, I almost pissed myself.

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  • Seavas escreveu:
    maio 2009
    Oh yes it is. At least it used to be. It was Wagner who proposed the three Bs include Bruckner rather than Brahms, but those three Bs have included so many different composers over the years that no one combination may be considered canonical. Brahms was much more hostile towards Bruckner's compositions in his writings (in his echt-Viennese sarcastic manner), the only composer from the Wagnerian camp he respected was Wagner himself.

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  • ArousedNinja escreveu:
    abril 2009
    Since when is the humble Catholic a stereotype. You don't know many Catholics, do you. And just because others ridiculed him, doesn't mean he couldn't have done the same. What kind of argument is that. Yeah they may have grown to like each other, but that's just because they got old. Also, if Bruckner loved Brahms so much, then why did Anton want him removed from the three Bs. Yah, that's really respectful. So Brahms makes history, and Anton is all, "meh, Brahms ain't cool gimme some Wagner." No. Fuck Bruckner.

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  • evilrobotsex escreveu:
    abril 2009
    i hate music

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