• iraq?

    lets hear it...

    you were right mr. lennon;;
    all you need is love.

  • what can i say... i hate these ppl who harm innocent kids,fathers,mothers,....,...,...,.........
    there is always an excuse to bomb, etc.
    their first purpose is havin the world and kill religions of the others... They are soo selfish.

    So i cannot call these countries as "independence country" anymore...

    they eat shit !

    !!! I waNna be NotHiN', Cuz NotHin' has EverythiN' !!!
  • Yeah you're completley right...

    The War in Iraq is the purest form of contradiction. Our country is free but it is more communist than china or cuba, with the Patriot Act and other injustifiable laws and acts. Our pledge of alledience clearly states that "Indivisible for Liberty & Justice for All..."

    Our country is the most divisible one in our world. Americans have such a superiority complex from being americans all their lives, that we feel we're invincible, when we're really just the opposite. And Justice for all implies for ALL. Correct? Well I think it needs to be changed to Justice for the Elite because thats how it goes.

    I cannot see any justification for the rights taking this so called conservative held congress, has embarked on.

    When everyone in this country screams you are free . But we have people being arrested for just wearing Peace symbols. There's something very, very wrong.

    And How about the gropings by security people being reported by all types of News people. It's disgusting to know that this country has lowered it's great values to such a disgusting level. Just to legitimize a President.

    We will never win the war on terror by giving up our ability to be Free and have our libertys. And People have a right to demand Peace. Even WW2 vets exclaimed manytimes in History. The end result for war is to gain Peace once again. But we aren't gaining anything with this War. But a bunch of dead and maimed sons & Daughters. And a Irresponsible, unfiscally sound government Pork barrel , along with a deficit deeper than ever in History.

    Food Not Bombs <3

    you were right mr. lennon;;
    all you need is love.

  • I have a headache, and Im not usually into reading lots of stuff to read and all, but I'm leaving this comment thing as good faith that I will return to read this once my headache fades and I have something of importance to say about the issue.

    -dennis

    -dennis

  • Hello again ! ^_^

    and word t'ur mother bush !

    !!! I waNna be NotHiN', Cuz NotHin' has EverythiN' !!!
  • no one here really has the right to make comments on how to lead an entire county. we all lack the life experence to lead it on our own, and weather you want to bitch and moan about it President Bush is our president and there is not a thing you can do. Rather then complainign about the war, why not do something beifcial to humanity instead of crying about it on the internet.
    if you honestly feel as strongly as most people now a days say they do you'd oin the peace corps or something of the sort.


    nowadays its more a of a 'fad' to hate on bush, which shows how many people really do need to mature.

  • Eric,
    Youre right about most of those things but that fact that you thin all i am doing is bitching and moaning about it makes me sick to my stomache. Im sure i do more with my life than you would attempt to do in the long run. Im pretty sure selling drugs isnt gonna get you anywhere. and the fact that you said all i do is complain, you dont know any of the facts about my activism and trying to gain what i believe in. The day i turn eighteen i am joining the peace corp. &the fact that you said its a fad to hate on bush, youre right. but im not antiflagxcore, this is what i believe in. Regardless of what people tell me is cool and isnt cool. I genuinly belive that every thing i say in do is beneficial towards humanity, because if it isnt, it isnt worth doing. I think it was really immature and low of you to generalize my beliefs on the war that we're in and tell me that im bitching and moaning. At least i have something to believe in.

    ps - Maybe there isnt a thing youcan do.
    But i sure as hell wont sit around and watch it happen.

    you were right mr. lennon;;
    all you need is love.

  • damn straight.

    -dennis

    • Lif3 disse...
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    • Ago 6 2006, 16h12
    The war in Iraq is just for the oil. That's the reality..



    And we all know who's responisble.. Our great friend Bush. But what do you want to do about it? Kick him out of his chair? Keep on demostrating?..

    You can't do anything about it.. It sounds a bit selfish but the war in Iraq is miles away from your home and you can't trow yourself in front of every flying bullet down there. I think it's better to live your own life peacefully and try to make the world a bit better..

    And about the war in Iraq: It's great to show that you're againt the fighting. But you need to stay real and see that you can't stop the fighting down there..

  • "1-2-3-4 I don't want your fucking war."- CRASS.
    The War is just pure bullshit.


  • you were right mr. lennon;;
    all you need is love.

  • woaaaaaaaaaaaaaah your talking aobut my choices to use drugs? how fucking dare you. thats like commenting on somone's religion and saying that isn't goign to take you far. as a matter of fact, you are doing that to every meber of the rasta religion. wow fuck that.
    have you had the mind openign expeances ive had thanks to herb and shrooms? no. can you possibly phantom how my mind works and my perspective on the world around me? no. you dont know shit about me so dont even try to make me seem like the burn out typical druggy.

    when i said those comments they wernt even directed to you, it was said as a generalization towards the youth of this county. you however go and personaly attack me and my ways.

    go grow up and stop living under your mom's wing and then you might be able to see the world for how it is. don't take what others say to be the truth, fidn it out on your own.


    and if someone is tripping and you kow they are lyysie, cut the negativity bullshit, you really dont get how much of an influence you were on giving me a bad trip.

    • sseldnim disse...
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    • Dez 4 2006, 22h58
    Why do I get the feeling that whatever both of you say, you don't give a shit but about yourselves ?

    If you die horribly on television,
    you will not have died in vain.
    You will have entertained us.

    Kurt Vonnegut - http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0512-13.htm
    • sseldnim disse...
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    • Mar 8 2007, 18h39
    scarecrowmartyr said:
    woaaaaaaaaaaaaaah your talking aobut my choices to use drugs? how fucking dare you. thats like commenting on somone's religion and saying that isn't goign to take you far. as a matter of fact, you are doing that to every meber of the rasta religion. wow fuck that.
    have you had the mind openign expeances ive had thanks to herb and shrooms? no. can you possibly phantom how my mind works and my perspective on the world around me? no. you dont know shit about me so dont even try to make me seem like the burn out typical druggy.

    when i said those comments they wernt even directed to you, it was said as a generalization towards the youth of this county. you however go and personaly attack me and my ways.

    go grow up and stop living under your mom's wing and then you might be able to see the world for how it is. don't take what others say to be the truth, fidn it out on your own.


    and if someone is tripping and you kow they are lyysie, cut the negativity bullshit, you really dont get how much of an influence you were on giving me a bad trip.



    You're not the one to judge about your own mind being opened or not, if it were so closed that's your problem, some people don't need shrooms or lsd, grass, pot oor any kind of drugs to expand their consciousness.
    Your not the one that is able to judge about your own mind let other people tell you if your mind is open or not. I tell you that what you wrote on this thread shows that you have a very close mind, you're not conscious of it but you do in my view.
    And about bad tripping it is your own responsability if you something as stupid as tripping looking at a screen and writing on a forum, what a waste, so don't pity yourself that's pathetic.

    If you die horribly on television,
    you will not have died in vain.
    You will have entertained us.

    Kurt Vonnegut - http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0512-13.htm
  • You're all forgetting the important part.... deposing a dictator who killed more than these troops have. Granted one cannot claim the ends justify the means, but if I were Iraqi I'd be more grateful for the soldiers laying down their lives so that I may live than then I would lament the dead.

    The war in Iraq has been used by far too many people as a means of blaming current administrations of irrationality- though mainly in America- most other places realise that if you vote for the guy, you accept his plans; Parliamentary Sovereignty and Consent of the Masses- Its called Democracy children.

    If you dislike it, work out what your leader's stance is likely to be on certain platforms before voting.

    • CovinS disse...
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    • Jun 8 2007, 5h04
    Thank you sir James.

    A group for listeners that appreciate and enjoy music with Sensual aspects and/or subtleties.
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    • Jul 29 2007, 22h22
    fuck war

    • sseldnim disse...
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    • Ago 9 2007, 14h34
    jamescondron said:
    You're all forgetting the important part.... deposing a dictator who killed more than these troops have. Granted one cannot claim the ends justify the means, but if I were Iraqi I'd be more grateful for the soldiers laying down their lives so that I may live than then I would lament the dead.

    The war in Iraq has been used by far too many people as a means of blaming current administrations of irrationality- though mainly in America- most other places realise that if you vote for the guy, you accept his plans; Parliamentary Sovereignty and Consent of the Masses- Its called Democracy children.

    If you dislike it, work out what your leader's stance is likely to be on certain platforms before voting.


    You say "if I were Iraqui". The fact is that you are not. And what you say about "choosing a leader" if you apply it to Iraquis, maybe the "chosen" leader has the same or worse (i bet on the worse" characteristics as Saddam.
    And who "chose" Saddam ? Have you asked that question yey? Investigate it.

    If you die horribly on television,
    you will not have died in vain.
    You will have entertained us.

    Kurt Vonnegut - http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0512-13.htm
  • Hey y'all..

    As said before, this "war" is about conquest and oil.
    Everything else is just BS. Those neo-con bastards don't
    give a fuck about our opinions. The only way is to assassinate them.

    Hard fact. They know they're criminals, they just don't care.

    • TuRockk disse...
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    • Dez 6 2007, 21h08
    Hey i think when Bush suck all oil the "war" will end =|

    Yeah Food no Bombs!

    It's f**king bad they killing famillis for nothing.I thing
    Operation Iraq Liberation is only crime

    Peace

    Sorry for my bad english

  • Time for a new political paradigm

    The complacent, corporate elitist government officials of the United States no longer serve the best interest of We the People and instead give handouts to multinational conglomerate war machines.

    Iraq - I'd be preaching to the choir if I said anything in this forum about my position on illegally invading and occupying Iraq.

    What I will say is that we NEED a shift of power in this country. The only way we can do that is to get active within our own local communities and bring the war home. Only then will people realize they're being taken advantage of not only by neo-conservatives, but by spineless liberals as well. A truly progressive agenda is required to end this war, and focus on issues every American is affected (or currently disaffected) by: universal health care, equal ducation for all, and curbing the material consumerism that is destroying our environment and putting thousands of us in debt.

    One of the only viable political alternatives to our corporate duopoly is the Green Party. I'm not trying to force their views down anyone's throats, I just hope that if anyone is unfamiliar with their platform and agenda to see the real difference and how progress will be made if they are representing us.

    peace.

    "If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine." ~ Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
    • jpoRS disse...
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    • Dez 9 2008, 22h57

    Wow.

    The problem isn't Iraq. The problem is War itself. Whenever a new war(Iraq, Vietnam, Falklands) pops up, opposition to THAT war swells, and people are very quick to state that they oppose THAT war. Yet so few will openly and clearly declare themselves to be pacifist, so few will commit to a complete abandonment of all forms of violence, no matter the situation. And for that reason that war may end and those soldiers who are fortunate to be alive may come home, but just around the corner is the next new "evil" ready to be trumped up into a threat driving the party faithful back to their guns.

    Until we realize that THIS war isn't the crime we cannot make progress. Iraq's momentous body count (whomever's you use) is nothing compared to the damage War has done to on humanity as a whole.

    And WontDanceAlone: Learn what you are talking about before you make as hair-brained a statement as "Our country is free but it is more communist than china or cuba, with the Patriot Act and other injustifiable laws and acts." Communism is a politcal theory advocating a classless society . . . what on Earth does that have to do with the Patriot Act? Not only do you make the rest of us look like the Moonbats the Right so wants us to be, but you ostracize our Communist brethren, who often fight for the same changes the rest of us do.

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