U.S. Presidential Elections 2008

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Líder: davess
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Criado em: 27 Out 2007
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Fiiguring out who's who, what's what, how's how and why's why with the issues, procedures and candidates of the...

up-to-date info on present runners for office can be found via this link

(click on the image of whatever candidate or former candidate you want to talk about, or find some other thread on another subject in 'discussions', or make a thread of your own about whatever you feel is relevant and important)

THE FOLLOWING CANDIDATES (WITH CANDIDATES FOR VICE PRESIDENT) ARE ON BALLOT IN ENOUGH STATES TO BE ABLE TO GAIN A MAJORITY IN THE U.S. ELECTORAL COLLEGE. THERE ARE ACTUALLY 15 PARTY CAMPAIGNS IN TOTAL AND ANOTHER 15 INDEPENDENT ONES (HOW THESE INDEPENDENTS STAND WITH THE BALLOT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE). ANY EXTRA THREADS AND LINKS AND INFORMATION THAT ANYONE ELSE CAN ADD WILL BE APPRECIATED. DON'T FORGET THE LINK ABOVE WHICH TAKES YOU TO THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE ABOUT ALL PRESENT CANDIDATES






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  • musicdish

    Obama fans - be sure to check out Desmond Pringle's new song "Hope Is Born" which was inspired by our new President-elect! It is available as a free download here on Lastfm

    dezembro 2008
  • BluesRok

    At 8:00 Central time, it looks like the election is shaping up the way the polls showed it might. McCain was counting on PA, but PA is now in Obama's pocket.

    novembro 2008
  • mistaken_id

    Is anyone out there? I'm a McCain supporter who joined he group today. Just looking to get a feel for this group - mostly Dem's / Rep's or Independents? What do you think the most important issue is for this election?

    outubro 2008
  • davess

    Yeah, you're right. I wish people would talk too. Unfortunately the group didn't grow enough to have enough people to contribute to a good conversation. And most goes on here in the shoutbox (I would have disabled it, if I could, so people would use the forums). I created the group so people could share and discuss their opinions. But I give some opinions when I can and they seem worthwhile, and when there's something to answer. I think I answered and gave an opinion to your point about Mrs. Obama. There's nothing else worth saying about it, except maybe why Republican supporters would think the size of someone's pay packet is a valid reason to attack them (do we know, or care, what any of the candidates earn?), seeing as such a reason for attack would really backfire on the Republican 'side of the fence'. My opinion is plain. I don't think Mrs. Obama said anything to suggest she sees earrings as a $600 item, and I think it's feeble that people jumped on her words. A sad reflection.

    outubro 2008
  • jonmeyer

    i like the point of view. i just really want to start a descussion on this group. no one says anything and if you are going to be apart of this then i would think you could at least come up with one opnion

    outubro 2008
  • davess

    Sorry, I deleted jonmeyer's shout by mistake, added two messed up ones of my own, and in deleting them deleted his too. I made the mistake that the x to click to delete a post is the one UNDER it, not the one above it, so clicked for his post, and not mine, sorry. He made a comment that Obama is friends with a terrorist, because he launched his political carreer at his house, and that Obama's wife showed herself up with her 'earring' comment, showing that she considers earrings to be a $600 item. Then he asked how 'you' (who, us?) would defend 'your' (whose, ours?) candidate. The two shouts below are my response.

    outubro 2008
  • davess

    Well, it ain't "my" candidate anyway, and why someone has to take such a blunt approach that everything is just either democrats or republicans and let's just bicker I don't really know, but here's the quote, I found it on various sites, quoted EXACTLY the same, so must be accurate, but I'm copying and posting this from 'exposing liberal lies' blog. I can't really care what she said or what it's about, and seems she screwed up, but to construe that she said the earrings would cost $600 bucks seems just sad wishful grubbing for dirt to sling. It doesn't say that. She didn't say that. Read it. It's easy enough to see that it could easily mean a little treat a woman would get herself with A LITTLE of the extra money that she found herself with that month, AFTER paying bills and paying for much else. Seems a pathetic grovelling attempt to me. SEE POST BELOW.

    outubro 2008
  • davess

    Here's the quote with the "lie exposer's" comments after it: "You're getting $600 - what can you do with that? Not to be ungrateful or anything, but maybe it pays down a bill, but it doesn't pay down every bill every month… Barack's approach is that the short-term quick fix kinda stuff sounds good, and it may even feel good that first month when you get that check, and then you go out and you buy a pair of earrings." $600 earrings? Wow. No wonder it’s tough for the Obamas to get by on their paltry six figure salaries.

    outubro 2008
  • jonmeyer

    i thought palin got her shit rocked that debate but... i think she did what she needed to do and that was to prove she was not a moron. Biden did what he needed to do and that was don't say anything to hurt their chances. i was listening to some independants call in they said they were impressed with palin. so i think that in a way Palin won. Even if she did not have a better debate

    outubro 2008
  • jonmeyer

    first off the majority of music listeners are Democrats. that is just how it is. The one thing i HATE though is when ppl point out instances when the "other" party lies. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?! ALL POLOTICIANS LIE!!!! get it through your thick head. they all lie. period. Obama, McCain, Palin, Clinton (both), Obama's running mate, they all lie. that is their job. I almost want to just pull someone off the street every year and say "you are president" to avoid this corruption. I like the ideas of the Republican party but i do believe socialism is needed to end a depression. I hate the leaders of the Republican party though b/c they are liars. We should just look at what the canidates have done in the past, not what they have said they will do, and i dont want ppl saying ''well palin did this and Obama did that" i hate them all. I think Zack De La Rocha should be President. He wont take any shit. (thanks for listening to me. if you made it this far.)

    setembro 2008
  • BluesRok

    Palin is a liar. "I told Congress 'thanks but no thanks' on that Bridge to Nowhere." My ass! She's on record--on video really--supporting it before Congress pulled the plug on it. Then she kept the money! Now she takes credit for it? Only an uninformed conservative would believe it! (Oh wait, that's exactly who she's trying to appeal to!) On the lighter side, watch Palin and Hillary open SNL: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/palin-hillary-open/656281/

    setembro 2008
  • AKDoc

    Aloha from Alaska (how do you like our new governor lady now?) --...Peace. -- ........http://www.last.fm/music/North+of+90/Detour+on+the+Road+to+Nowhere/After+the+Game

    setembro 2008
  • BluesRok

    Obama is our presumpive nominee! It's time to focus on McCain. It's clear that the Dems are going to tie McCain to our current Commander in Grief. I think it'll work.

    maio 2008
  • MilesBachman

    watch clinton advisor say that people in Indiana are shit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEuNIUb3Ges

    maio 2008
  • MilesBachman

    to me the most important difference between obama and clinton is that she is so divisive (like most polititians) and he is all about unity. she seems like a slightly better version of what we already have, we need a more serious change, which can't be done without bringing people together and getting everyone involved in the future of this current mess of a country.

    maio 2008
  • broadsideballad

    Thanks Davess. I should have checked before posting. I would have seen that YouTube had removed the link on Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's Green Party Presidential announcement. I made a new thread here today and I checked the links. You should see 2 working YouTube videos on McKinney. I appreciate your establishing this site. Can you make annnouncements to other groups to get more members?

    março 2008
  • davess

    Mr.Balladeer. You gave the same youtube link twice. I think this is the one you meant for the Rumsfeld grilling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU Plus the link for the standard format on YouTube of the McKinney announcement (your video doesn't work). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cOM9r51Nw Probably really they should be in her thread, but, fair enough, I haven't created one yet.

    março 2008
  • broadsideballad

    Cynthia McKinney Grills Sec of Defense Donald Rumsfeld about missing trillions from the Pentagon budget & other tales of corruption: http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=03cOM9r51Nw&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//runcynthiarun.org/&iurl=http%3A//i.ytimg.com/vi/03cOM9r51Nw/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskL_FwUKVaNqGwV3ntjm6AXh

    março 2008
  • broadsideballad

    You now have a photo of former Democratic Congresswoman from Georgia, Cynthia McKinney, up there now. Great! Video, Cynthia McKinney Declares for President as a Green Party Candidate! http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=03cOM9r51Nw&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//runcynthiarun.org/&iurl=http%3A//i.ytimg.com/vi/03cOM9r51Nw/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskL_FwUKVaNqGwV3ntjm6AXh Campaign: http://runcynthiarun.org

    março 2008
  • BluesRok

    You know Bush is a LAME DUCK when Kennedy's endorsement of Obama is a bigger news story than Bush's delivery of the State of the Union Address.

    janeiro 2008
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