do you think it's true? :\

I think Marcelo is an asshole,and evrything dramatically changed between Tarja and the guys the moment he showed up in their lifes,he´s bluffing like he always did,he only wants to make money,the more the best even if he helped to make Tarja´s head and the band to separate.
I think its Tarja ´s loss and tho i still like her and and her work,the band gained a lot with Annete as a new singer,they look happier,DPP is a blast of an album,and i love Nightwish,let them continue like this.

i think it's true, because Tuomas really feels something for Tarja (you can see that in his lyrics, just... see them and try to feel). especially the agressive side of him was showed on Dark Passion Play when he just needed to throw out his negative feelings. i can understand him completely and i'm not afraid of saying these things. i asked the closest person for me about that and he said that's true - he heard about that too.
the only one difference is that i felt like something is wrong when i listened to their old music and songs from DPP. the difference is colossal (for me, i mean).
but Tuomas is still Tuomas and no matter what will happen in the future, i will still love him, because of his work and his soul what i saw hidden in his lyrics.

Marcelo is a lovely guy, I met him and it's really unfair that everyone tells how terrible he is.

Think about what the NW guys did to Tarja before the letter. And think about the same problems Anette has got now with them. They aren't the angels you think they are.

in the lyrics is really everything, look at this:
"Did you ever hear what I told you?
Did you ever read what I wrote you?
Did you ever listen to what we played?
Did you ever let in what the world said?"
what do you think, to what person are these words?
for me they're obviously to Tarja.

I think...time for me to give everyone a completely different POSSIBLE take on the situation (I don't know anything more about it than anyone else here).

Just think for a moment...what if it were the other way around, Tarja was in love with Tuomas and he considered her a friend only? Easy to understand how Marcelo could be jealous still. Look at Tarja's lyrics too.
Could be, no?

I don't think it's true, Tuomas is a mature man and he knew that his feelings for Tarja, love or friendship, shouldn't interfer with the band. They weren't getting along well, they were only together because the band so it was better for the band and for Tarja just broke up.

Listen Bye Bye Beatiful, that song said everything about Tarja & Tuomas.

Nivette said:
in the lyrics is really everything, look at this:
"Did you ever hear what I told you?
Did you ever read what I wrote you?
Did you ever listen to what we played?
Did you ever let in what the world said?"
what do you think, to what person are these words?
for me they're obviously to Tarja.



Of course the lyrics are about Tarja! Tuomas himself has said that the song is about Tarja. But that doesn't meen he had feelings for her! It only means that he tried to talk with her, tell her not to leave. But after Marcelo came into the picture everything changed. He poisoned Tarja's mind and she changed completely.

And for those of you who still believe that Tuomas had feelings for Tarja, remember he wrote angry lyrics on Century Child as well! (Slaying the Dreamer) And that was BEFORE Tarje was fired from the band.

And for those of you who still believe that Tuomas had feelings for Tarja, remember he wrote angry lyrics on Century Child as well! (Slaying the Dreamer) And that was BEFORE Tarje was fired from the band.

I don't see the point. It's not that Tuomas has written angry songs just concerning Tarja subject. Even if he had feelings for her, it doesn't exclude the fact he could have written songs about other people around him .
The funny thing is that Slaying The Dreamer is someway connected to Tarja LOL. The story about that song is told in NW book ;).

I don't know why it would such a weird impossible thing if he was in love with her. Why Tuomas must say always the truth while Marcelo is a liar in any case?
If it was true it doesn't mean he fired her for this reason. I don't think it's impossible he had feelings for her. On the contrary there are things which indeed make think like that ;).

You chose the long road, but we'll be waiting
Bye, bye, beautiful!

they said enough

and i really hope to see tarja in nw again, that's the music and vocal that i fell in love with 11 years ago

What a bunch of load. Tuomas stated that he was never in love with Tarja. I saw in an interview that somewhere in 2001, Tuomas stated that he broke up with his long-term girlfriend. My guess is that Gethsemane is about one of his first serious relationships and Ever Dream is about the end of it and about Tuomas missing a "certain somebody", but it was never about Tarja.

actually he was love with Tarja.


chanana karan

it,s all about Tarja.


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