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- MNez disse...
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- Out 27 2007, 15h32
I'm probably somewhere between a libertarian and a South Park Republican. I'll just stay out of this argument....

There will always be a sort of class system and that is really what made America great in the first play. The thought that no matter who you were, if you tried hard enough you could move up into the middle class. Without that, people lose hope and become less efficient and lazy.

[quote][b][user]MNez[/user][/b] disse: I'm probably somewhere between a libertarian and a South Park Republican. I'll just stay out of this argument.... There will always be a sort of class system and that is really what made America great in the first play. The thought that no matter who you were, if you tried hard enough you could move up into the middle class. Without that, people lose hope and become less efficient and lazy.[quote]

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- wreckedangle disse...
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- Out 27 2007, 15h35
MNez said:
There will always be a sort of class system and that is really what made America great in the first play. The thought that no matter who you were, if you tried hard enough you could move up into the middle class. Without that, people lose hope and become less efficient and lazy.
jesus christ

[quote][b][user]wreckedangle[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]MNez[/user][/b] said: There will always be a sort of class system and that is really what made America great in the first play. The thought that no matter who you were, if you tried hard enough you could move up into the middle class. Without that, people lose hope and become less efficient and lazy.[/quote] jesus christ[quote]

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- awthomp86 disse...
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- Out 27 2007, 16h10
wreckedangle said:
MNez said:
There will always be a sort of class system and that is really what made America great in the first play. The thought that no matter who you were, if you tried hard enough you could move up into the middle class. Without that, people lose hope and become less efficient and lazy.
jesus christ

Yeah... I'd be hardpressed to say that a class system made America great. It can be attributed more to our economic freedom, vast resources, and work ethic. Sure, there are people moving up in social rank all the time - but it's not attributed to "Hey, being poor sucks, I want to be rich!" I think a more accurate description that most individuals, no matter the social class, are driven by profit and the desire to improve themselves.

[quote][b][user]awthomp86[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]wreckedangle[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]MNez[/user][/b] said: There will always be a sort of class system and that is really what made America great in the first play. The thought that no matter who you were, if you tried hard enough you could move up into the middle class. Without that, people lose hope and become less efficient and lazy.[/quote] jesus christ[/quote] Yeah... I'd be hardpressed to say that a class system made America great. It can be attributed more to our economic freedom, vast resources, and work ethic. Sure, there are people moving up in social rank all the time - but it's not attributed to "Hey, being poor sucks, I want to be rich!" I think a more accurate description that most individuals, no matter the social class, are driven by profit and the desire to improve themselves. [quote]

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- jiroach6 disse...
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- Out 30 2007, 0h56
themcrob said:
ron paul vs kuninich in a crazy contest, who wins?

Mike Gravel.

[quote][b][user]jiroach6[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]themcrob[/user][/b] said: ron paul vs kuninich in a crazy contest, who wins? [/quote] Mike Gravel.[quote]

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- 80sfraud disse...
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- Out 30 2007, 1h49
jiroach6 said:
themcrob said:
ron paul vs kuninich in a crazy contest, who wins?

Mike Gravel.

seriously!

[quote][b][user]80sfraud[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]jiroach6[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]themcrob[/user][/b] said: ron paul vs kuninich in a crazy contest, who wins? [/quote] Mike Gravel.[/quote] seriously![quote]

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- andgoodbye disse...
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- Out 30 2007, 2h18
If only Mike Gravel weren't always so angry.

That was then, this is dumb.

[quote][b][user]andgoodbye[/user][/b] disse: If only Mike Gravel weren't always so angry.[quote]

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- MarioParty3 disse...
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- Out 30 2007, 2h55
He has the look of persistence. And senility, too.

[quote][b][user]MarioParty3[/user][/b] disse: [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8[/youtube] He has the look of persistence. And senility, too.[quote]

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- jiroach6 disse...
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- Out 30 2007, 4h38
HAHAHA. What a kooky motherfucker.

[quote][b][user]jiroach6[/user][/b] disse: HAHAHA. What a kooky motherfucker.[quote]

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- findingthebomb disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 5h40
knkwzrd said:
Libertarianism sounds really good when people talk about it, but if it was actually implemented the United States would be bought out by China and everyone would be fucked. It's not a practical form of government. Libertarians are the right-wing version of assholes with Che Guevara shirts.

Che Guavara is a douche.

And i'm more leftist than rightist.

[quote][b][user]findingthebomb[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]knkwzrd[/user][/b] said: Libertarianism sounds really good when people talk about it, but if it was actually implemented the United States would be bought out by China and everyone would be fucked. It's not a practical form of government. Libertarians are the right-wing version of assholes with Che Guevara shirts.[/quote] Che Guavara is a douche. And i'm more leftist than rightist.[quote]

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- findingthebomb disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 5h41
Mike Gravel is one of the single greatest men in the history of the world.

[quote][b][user]findingthebomb[/user][/b] disse: Mike Gravel is one of the single greatest men in the history of the world.[quote]

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- findingthebomb disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 5h43
Government, when you look at it logically, is one of the weirdest systems in the last 6000 years or so.

[quote][b][user]findingthebomb[/user][/b] disse: Government, when you look at it logically, is one of the weirdest systems in the last 6000 years or so.[quote]

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- findingthebomb disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 5h43
NO I'M NOT AN ANARCHIST

[quote][b][user]findingthebomb[/user][/b] disse: NO I'M NOT AN ANARCHIST[quote]

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- Haarry disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 8h00
Use the FUCKING EDIT BUTTON..

shit.

Zhe Nhir @ http://www.lonelyrobotdistressbeacon.com/

[quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] disse: Use the FUCKING EDIT BUTTON.. shit.[quote]

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- 80sfraud disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 21h45
seriously goddamn

[quote][b][user]80sfraud[/user][/b] disse: seriously goddamn [quote]

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- knkwzrd disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 23h26
This image seems so bizarrely appropriate.

[quote][b][user]knkwzrd[/user][/b] disse: [IMG]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/knkwzrd/gallery-littleman-500.gif[/IMG] This image seems so bizarrely appropriate.[quote]

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- 80sfraud disse...
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- Nov 1 2007, 23h30
married to the sea is always appropriate

[quote][b][user]80sfraud[/user][/b] disse: married to the sea is always appropriate [quote]

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- findingthebomb disse...
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- Nov 2 2007, 4h18
Wow, that was weird, that long string of posts...I think i kept coming back in here in a hurry and writing random stuff...?

[quote][b][user]findingthebomb[/user][/b] disse: Wow, that was weird, that long string of posts...I think i kept coming back in here in a hurry and writing random stuff...?[quote]

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- MarioParty3 disse...
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- Nov 2 2007, 18h00
findingthebomb said:
Wow, that was weird, that long string of posts...I think i kept coming back in here in a hurry and writing random stuff...?

That is so unusual for you.

[quote][b][user]MarioParty3[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]findingthebomb[/user][/b] said: Wow, that was weird, that long string of posts...I think i kept coming back in here in a hurry and writing random stuff...?[/quote] That is so unusual for you.[quote]

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- beelzbubba disse...
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- Nov 3 2007, 1h14
I'd vote for CarsCat if she were running.

I disagree that because animals organize through a might-is-right system, it necessarily follows that it is the best system by which humans should organize, in fact history has rather shown that it is one that leads to tyranny, oppression, and rule by despots.

And for laissez-faire economists or those who will say that capital markets will provide perfect solutions by considering only half of Adam Smith's message would do well to consider Smith's other landmark work: The Theory of Moral Sentiments.

beelzbubba
jazzoetry is poetry

[quote][b][user]beelzbubba[/user][/b] disse: I'd vote for CarsCat if she were running. I disagree that [i]because[/i] animals organize through a might-is-right system, it necessarily follows that it is the best system by which humans should organize, in fact history has rather shown that it is one that leads to tyranny, oppression, and rule by despots. And for laissez-faire economists or those who will say that capital markets will provide perfect solutions by considering only half of Adam Smith's message would do well to consider Smith's other landmark work: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_Moral_Sentiments]The Theory of Moral Sentiments.[/url][quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
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- Nov 3 2007, 3h42
beelzbubba said:
I'd vote for CarsCat if she were running.

Ah, thanks! But alas, I'm 18 years off from eligibility. And I don't think I'd want to be in politics anyway—I hate being the center of attention. My aspiration is to become a journalist, so I can help bring down others' political careers instead of building one for myself. ;)

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]beelzbubba[/user][/b] said: I'd vote for CarsCat if she were running. [/quote] Ah, thanks! But alas, I'm 18 years off from eligibility. And I don't think I'd want to be in politics anyway—I hate being the center of attention. My aspiration is to become a journalist, so I can help bring down others' political careers instead of building one for myself. ;)[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
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- Nov 29 2007, 21h27
[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: [img]http://billyocean.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/billy-banner.jpg[/img][quote]

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- balls mahoney disse...
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- Nov 29 2007, 21h54
Dems biggest problem right now is they think Hillary = Bill, have they noticed she polls the worst of their field against the Repubs? Obama seems like the best of the frontrunners, but even he is becoming a soundbite.

The Neo-Con republican inability to balance personal freedom and national security could be considered comical if it hadn't turned deadly.

Nader's a turd, but nobody should ever feel like a vote is wasted. If you vote, you've done your duty. Kerry wasn't getting elected last time regardless.

Richardson and Huckabee would be the best election choices for us, but Richardson looks like my Uncle Jack after he tears through booze during family gatherings, and Huckabee has too much of the Lord in him.

Clinton- Romney is the nadir of American politics. If you think Bush is bad, elect either of them and your campus will be dedicating the GW Bush library for all his forward thinking and good works in 2009.

[quote][b][user]balls mahoney[/user][/b] disse: Dems biggest problem right now is they think Hillary = Bill, have they noticed she polls the worst of their field against the Repubs? Obama seems like the best of the frontrunners, but even he is becoming a soundbite. The Neo-Con republican inability to balance personal freedom and national security could be considered comical if it hadn't turned deadly. Nader's a turd, but nobody should ever feel like a vote is wasted. If you vote, you've done your duty. Kerry wasn't getting elected last time regardless. Richardson and Huckabee would be the best election choices for us, but Richardson looks like my Uncle Jack after he tears through booze during family gatherings, and Huckabee has too much of the Lord in him. Clinton- Romney is the nadir of American politics. If you think Bush is bad, elect either of them and your campus will be dedicating the GW Bush library for all his forward thinking and good works in 2009. [quote]

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- frequency71988 disse...
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- Nov 30 2007, 0h10
Pillars1999 said:

hero!

Ultimate Billy Ocean Fans

[quote][b][user]frequency71988[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]Pillars1999[/user][/b] said: [img]http://billyocean.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/billy-banner.jpg[/img][/quote] hero! [quote]

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- awthomp86 disse...
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- Nov 30 2007, 1h53
beelzbubba said:
I'd vote for CarsCat if she were running.

I disagree that because animals organize through a might-is-right system, it necessarily follows that it is the best system by which humans should organize, in fact history has rather shown that it is one that leads to tyranny, oppression, and rule by despots.

And for laissez-faire economists or those who will say that capital markets will provide perfect solutions by considering only half of Adam Smith's message would do well to consider Smith's other landmark work: The Theory of Moral Sentiments.

So? Adam Smith isn't the definitive voice on Capitalism.

[quote][b][user]awthomp86[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]beelzbubba[/user][/b] said: I'd vote for CarsCat if she were running. I disagree that [i]because[/i] animals organize through a might-is-right system, it necessarily follows that it is the best system by which humans should organize, in fact history has rather shown that it is one that leads to tyranny, oppression, and rule by despots. And for laissez-faire economists or those who will say that capital markets will provide perfect solutions by considering only half of Adam Smith's message would do well to consider Smith's other landmark work: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_Moral_Sentiments]The Theory of Moral Sentiments.[/url][/quote] So? Adam Smith isn't the definitive voice on Capitalism. [quote]

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- knkwzrd disse...
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- Nov 30 2007, 4h34
Yeah, he just, you know, invented it.

[quote][b][user]knkwzrd[/user][/b] disse: Yeah, he just, you know, invented it.[quote]

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