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Sarah Palin: The Poopergate Investigation
Bukake Mom
Drill! Baby! Drill!: The ANLWR Edition
(London) Bridge in Nowhere (very sorry for the Fergie reference)

Best I could do.

I kind of want to reply so I can find out what studio is releasing it or what the name is or anything like that.

Welp looks like they got that porno finished:

http://lessclothes.com/client/posts/p-411-wait-thats-not-sarah-palin


The script looks pretty promising:
http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/08/get-a-load-of-this-whos-nailin-palin-script-1/

Canadian election tonight. Chances are good that after the American election we'll have a way bigger right-wing nutjob than you guys for once.

Debate impressions? I missed a good portion of this one since debates start early in the West, but it looks like John actually got a good line in: "I'm not President Bush". Too little too late, Obama will be President.

Other than that, McCain was a complete asshole and Obama absolutely nailed the closing remarks.

I did not watch the debate, because the Phils KICKED FUCKING ASS!

That's not a dance, though—he was just probably trying to crack out his arthritic joints. BUUUURN.

But really, in all seriousness, McCain never really responded to what Obama said and just kept repeating the same old tired tropes. And his "I'M the victim" bit made me want to gag. Still, he got in some hilarious verbal slips, like calling Palin a "bresh of freth air" and saying Obama was "Senator Government."

ACoolAssTurtle said:
McCain win's debate again. - A Famous Person, 10/16/08


Kind of looks like a George W. Bush chimpanzee shuffle.

andgoodbye said:
but I'd say from McCain there was too much attack, not enough substance. Also, too much visible anger and idiotic smirks.

For most of the debate he had that Republican prick face. Atleast Obama could smile sarcastically. McCain just looked like a twat in responding to Obama non-verbally.

Even if John McCain's content had been mind-blowing he basically would have lost just because of how old, angry, and, after the debate ended and in that gif up there, confused he looked.

Now if you'll excuse me, some of the fellas and I are off to go declare class warfare on Joe the Plumber

White people are trash.


Not sure why that is such a controversial opinion to these people?

As much as that is probably true, it's scary how many youtube videos of stupid people came from that rally.

knkwzrd said:
There is no such thing as a Republican who isn't racist or retarded. That is their base.

I'll try to be the voice of reason here, because at my age, I probably meet more thoughtful Republicans than most of you. Not bragging, mind you, I'd be happier if I met more people who were bent left.

These people who are "the base"--and, oh, the delicious irony of the definitions of that word--once were Democrats (not small d democrats, but members of the Democratic Party regardless of what the platform of the Democrats actually espoused). After WWII, with the integration of the Armed Services, and the evolution of society that followed with Brown v. Board of Education, the line started shifting. But the pendulum was still to swing further.

Northern Democrats and many Republicans regardless of location understood the 14th amendment to the constitution as providing equal treatment under the law to all Americans, and on that basis, Eisenhower enforced the integration of schools in Arkansas. For you music fans, that's what the background of Charles Mingus's Fables of Faubus is about.

Now, mind you, I am not going to claim that the North today--or even then--is any less racist than the South. We just knew how to make it appear based on economic rather than racial prejudice for a longer time and the economics tracked pretty damn well with race.

Governors like Faubus or the much celebrated/reviled Lester Maddox were Democrats. The continental shift happened as one of their own crossed the philosophical line when Lyndon Johnson supported and endorsed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It still took a few more years, but as more and more conservative Republicans saw these moves as collectivist or socialist, they began to balk at moves that forced change--such as the ill-considered but arguably necessary forced busing of children to integrate schools. (Almost always, that meant taking African American youth from their home schools and neighborhoods in laughably small numbers to "integrate" white schools.) These republicans sincerely and genuinely believe that we should solve these problems, but that it is not the government's role to intercede, that people should be moved to act ethically as a condition of citizenship. Unfortunately, that position gives cover to a lot of people who hide behind that argument but who really are racist and bigoted. That lady who called Obama an Arab--and McCain responded as he did, taking the mic away from her--is not a Republican because she has any dep seated philosophical conviction on the policies or positions of the Republican or Democratic party! No, she will vote with whoever gives her cover for her bigotry and racism.



When George Wallace split from the Democratic party to found the American Independence Party, he took a lot of Democrats with him. I was going to say Southern Democrats, but again, this type of racism is not geographically limited, it is more culturally and economically based. The HQ of the KKK was in Indiana for a good part of the post-WWII era, until it moved to Howell, Michigan, a town about 30 miles from me.

The Posse Commitatus and Stormfront Movements has moved the locus of these hate groups further west, to Idaho and Montana--again, not to blame those states.

But there grew a wing of the Republican Party that has grown stronger and stronger over a number of years that took the "dough" of the disaffected white poor and leavened it with the "yeast" of Cultural Values that true republicans find repulsive: those who adopt the name republican but turn their backs on the equality and freedom that was once the hallmark of that party.

Meanwhile, many Southern Republicans drifted over to the Democratic party, where they found their changing views on race welcomed, and they tempered some of the fiscal policies of the Northern Democrats who never saw a problem they thought could not be fixed with money, money, more money. Whatever one thinks/thought of the Clinton-Gore leadership of the CDP, there was an attempt at bipartisan, centrist government.

Gingrich, Rove, and their ilk (I love that word, ilk) realized that they could exploit Cultural Issue voters to vote against their own best self interest by stoking xenophobia, and it has been quite successful for the past 12 years.

So, I reject that all R(r)epublicans are bigots or cretins (or both) as much as I reject that Democrats are terrorists and socialists.

As far as enlightened self interest: An interesting graphic was circulating a few days ago that compared the relative increase in size of government and the comparable growth in investment value under Democrats and Republicans over the last 80 or so years. Each has been in office roughly 40 years or half of that time.

If you had invested $10K and counted the indexed investment gain/loss for those 40 years, your money would be worth around $500K now. If you invested the same and counted the gains/losses under Republicans, and excluded the recent drop and the Hoover presidency, your investment would be at around $80 to 100K now, but if you add Hoover back in (still exempting the recent Bush free fall), your 10K would be $14K. Similarly, the biggest expansions of government (number of employees directly working for government agencies + inflation-adjusted government spending) have occurred under Reagan and Bush II.

Clearly, by most objective measures, voting Republican is against people's best financial interest, and the Democrats are the party least likely to intrude on one's personal privacy and uphold the constitution. The encroachment by this Unitary Executive that we've had over the last eight years should frighten anyone who believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

So, finally, for those few of you who have not yet made up your minds, and can vote in the US election (sorry for this diatribe to all of our global Musical Elitists) let me leave you in the position of thinking of this upcoming election as hiring a team of managers to run the company of which you are on the board of directors--because that's what we are. We aren't installing a monarch, we are hiring a CEO, a manager of our best interests.

Here's one comparison that's been flying around the web the last couple of days. If you've alredy seen it, my apologies. If you haven't, then read and think a minute:

How Racism Works...

1. What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
   
2. What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
   
   
3. What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said "I do" to?
   
4. What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?
   
   
5. What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
   
6. What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
   
   
7. What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?
   
8. What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
   

If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.

You are The Boss... which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc.

Educational Background:

1. Obama:
   
2. Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
   
3. Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
   
   Biden:
   
4. University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
   
5. Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
   
   vs.
   
   McCain:
   
6. United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899
   
   Palin:
   
7. Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
   
8. North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
   
9. University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
   
10. Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
    
11. University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
    

Now, which team are you going to hire?

knkwzrd said:
Continuing the wonderful tradition of lengthy discourses prompted by my throwaway one-liners...

ah, honestly, knk, you prompted it, but you weren't the target audience (obv.). Btw, your Conservative Party would be roughly equivalent to a US Gay Liberation-Rainbow Peoples-Pinko party, if we had one. Our Democrats will still be to the right, however slightly, of your CP.

The most coverage your election got here was that the Liberal candidate would never make it based on the fact that he talked with the Quebequois accent. How soon we forget Jean "Sylvester the Cat" Chretien.