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- nkh disse...
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- Mai 19 2007, 21h00
MNez said:
I'll probably just find a torrent of the series, it's only like 12 episodes.
Look for Peep Show too!

Bringing this thread slightly back on topic, has anyone seen this film about Ian Curtis that was apparently screened at Cannes this past week?

I seen something on BBC news scroll past on the ticker that said it had received rapturous applause. I'm not the biggest Ian Curtis / Joy Division fan, but I'd be interested in seeing it. I remember watching a dramatised documentary type-affair about him before, but it can't be that the BBC were referring too... it must be a new one.. any thoughts?

[quote][b][user]nkh[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]MNez[/user][/b] said: I'll probably just find a torrent of the series, it's only like 12 episodes.[/quote] Look for Peep Show too! Bringing this thread slightly back on topic, has anyone seen this film about Ian Curtis that was apparently screened at Cannes this past week? I seen something on BBC news scroll past on the ticker that said it had received [i]rapturous applause[/i]. I'm not the biggest Ian Curtis / Joy Division fan, but I'd be interested in seeing it. I remember watching a dramatised documentary type-affair about him before, but it can't be that the BBC were referring too... it must be a new one.. any thoughts?[quote]

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- ComeNowMyDroogs disse...
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- Mai 20 2007, 5h20
Music is for the elite? Hardly. The new Arcade Fire album debuted at number 2, yet 99.9% of anyone has never heard of Francois Truffaut. Everyone considers music art, but most consider film to merely be entertaining. It takes alot more perception and work to appreciate an Antonioni film than it does a 4 minute indie pop track. Music is easy. Film is the tough stuff.

That being said... I recently saw Nicholas Ray's "In A Lonely Place" and "They Live By Night". What a fascinating director! Such brilliant subtext that manages to exist within the film despite the production code authority.

"I don't believe you go to heaven when you're good
Everything goes to hell anyway..."

[quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] disse: Music is for the elite? Hardly. The new Arcade Fire album debuted at number 2, yet 99.9% of anyone has never heard of Francois Truffaut. Everyone considers music art, but most consider film to merely be entertaining. It takes alot more perception and work to appreciate an Antonioni film than it does a 4 minute indie pop track. Music is easy. Film is the tough stuff. That being said... I recently saw Nicholas Ray's "In A Lonely Place" and "They Live By Night". What a fascinating director! Such brilliant subtext that manages to exist within the film despite the production code authority. [quote]

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- Haarry disse...
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- Mai 20 2007, 5h28
Most people I know who are really into movies are much more into the entertainment value of them than the meanings.

In fact with arty esoteric films I find they are most often enjoyed by people who aren't huge film buffs.

The film buffs I know like stuff like Saw, Predator and Nightmare on Elm Street. The casual movie lovers like stuff like Donnie Darko, A Clockwork Orange and Trainspotting.

Zhe Nhir @ http://www.lonelyrobotdistressbeacon.com/

[quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] disse: Most people I know who are really into movies are much more into the entertainment value of them than the meanings. In fact with arty esoteric films I find they are most often enjoyed by people who aren't huge film buffs. The film buffs I know like stuff like Saw, Predator and Nightmare on Elm Street. The casual movie lovers like stuff like Donnie Darko, A Clockwork Orange and Trainspotting.[quote]

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- ComeNowMyDroogs disse...
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- Mai 20 2007, 9h01
Haarry said:
Most people I know who are really into movies are much more into the entertainment value of them than the meanings.

In fact with arty esoteric films I find they are most often enjoyed by people who aren't huge film buffs.

The film buffs I know like stuff like Saw, Predator and Nightmare on Elm Street. The casual movie lovers like stuff like Donnie Darko, A Clockwork Orange and Trainspotting.

I'm talking about films that actually require intellect and insight, which none of the above mentioned films really require. I think DD, ACO and Trainspotting are all relatively accessible films. Show one of those people The 400 Blows, or La Dolce Vita, relatively lightweight stuff and tell me if they get anything out of it. There are plenty of movie buffs who, as you stated, are just into the entertainment value, but that doesn't change the nature or potential of film as an artistic medium. "The meanings" is a pretty loaded word. Less than "meanings" i'm talking about the ability to perceive what is actually going on in a film. It's easy to look at John Ford's "The Searchers" and say "okay, so its a western and John Wayne has to save that chick from the evil indians". But there is so much more going on, not because there is a hidden meaning, but because there is an insane amount of subtext communicated soley through the mise-en-scene.

Music on the other hand is fairly easy to grapple. There are no hidden elements, at least not in the same sense. I'm not discrediting music in anyway, but I guess what I'm saying is, I'll see a film that will haunt me for days, it's ins and outs, a particular scene or even just a shot etc. etc. A song on the otherhand affects me while I'm listening to it, and not much afterwords. Sure I can talk for hours on end about said song, but a song is so much easier to get your head around.

"I don't believe you go to heaven when you're good
Everything goes to hell anyway..."

[quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] said: Most people I know who are really into movies are much more into the entertainment value of them than the meanings. In fact with arty esoteric films I find they are most often enjoyed by people who aren't huge film buffs. The film buffs I know like stuff like Saw, Predator and Nightmare on Elm Street. The casual movie lovers like stuff like Donnie Darko, A Clockwork Orange and Trainspotting.[/quote] I'm talking about films that actually require intellect and insight, which none of the above mentioned films really require. I think DD, ACO and Trainspotting are all relatively accessible films. Show one of those people The 400 Blows, or La Dolce Vita, relatively lightweight stuff and tell me if they get anything out of it. There are plenty of movie buffs who, as you stated, are just into the entertainment value, but that doesn't change the nature or potential of film as an artistic medium. "The meanings" is a pretty loaded word. Less than "meanings" i'm talking about the ability to perceive what is actually going on in a film. It's easy to look at John Ford's "The Searchers" and say "okay, so its a western and John Wayne has to save that chick from the evil indians". But there is so much more going on, not because there is a hidden meaning, but because there is an insane amount of subtext communicated soley through the mise-en-scene. Music on the other hand is fairly easy to grapple. There are no hidden elements, at least not in the same sense. I'm not discrediting music in anyway, but I guess what I'm saying is, I'll see a film that will haunt me for days, it's ins and outs, a particular scene or even just a shot etc. etc. A song on the otherhand affects me while I'm listening to it, and not much afterwords. Sure I can talk for hours on end about said song, but a song is so much easier to get your head around.[quote]

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- ComeNowMyDroogs disse...
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- Mai 20 2007, 9h02
nkh said:
MNez said:
I'll probably just find a torrent of the series, it's only like 12 episodes.
Look for Peep Show too!

Bringing this thread slightly back on topic, has anyone seen this film about Ian Curtis that was apparently screened at Cannes this past week?

I seen something on BBC news scroll past on the ticker that said it had received rapturous applause. I'm not the biggest Ian Curtis / Joy Division fan, but I'd be interested in seeing it. I remember watching a dramatised documentary type-affair about him before, but it can't be that the BBC were referring too... it must be a new one.. any thoughts?

you probably saw 24 Hour Party People... ring any bells?

"I don't believe you go to heaven when you're good
Everything goes to hell anyway..."

[quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]nkh[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]MNez[/user][/b] said: I'll probably just find a torrent of the series, it's only like 12 episodes.[/quote] Look for Peep Show too! Bringing this thread slightly back on topic, has anyone seen this film about Ian Curtis that was apparently screened at Cannes this past week? I seen something on BBC news scroll past on the ticker that said it had received [i]rapturous applause[/i]. I'm not the biggest Ian Curtis / Joy Division fan, but I'd be interested in seeing it. I remember watching a dramatised documentary type-affair about him before, but it can't be that the BBC were referring too... it must be a new one.. any thoughts?[/quote] you probably saw 24 Hour Party People... ring any bells? [quote]

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- Haarry disse...
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- Mai 20 2007, 9h29
Well, I thought you meant Films that convey intellect and have insight.

In that case I know no film enthusiasts.. at all.

Zhe Nhir @ http://www.lonelyrobotdistressbeacon.com/

[quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] disse: Well, I thought you meant Films that convey intellect and have insight. In that case I know no film enthusiasts.. at all.[quote]

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- tmills disse...
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- Mai 20 2007, 9h43
ComeNowMyDroogs said:
Haarry said:
Most people I know who are really into movies are much more into the entertainment value of them than the meanings.

In fact with arty esoteric films I find they are most often enjoyed by people who aren't huge film buffs.

The film buffs I know like stuff like Saw, Predator and Nightmare on Elm Street. The casual movie lovers like stuff like Donnie Darko, A Clockwork Orange and Trainspotting.

I'm talking about films that actually require intellect and insight, which none of the above mentioned films really require. I think DD, ACO and Trainspotting are all relatively accessible films. Show one of those people The 400 Blows, or La Dolce Vita, relatively lightweight stuff and tell me if they get anything out of it. There are plenty of movie buffs who, as you stated, are just into the entertainment value, but that doesn't change the nature or potential of film as an artistic medium. "The meanings" is a pretty loaded word. Less than "meanings" i'm talking about the ability to perceive what is actually going on in a film. It's easy to look at John Ford's "The Searchers" and say "okay, so its a western and John Wayne has to save that chick from the evil indians". But there is so much more going on, not because there is a hidden meaning, but because there is an insane amount of subtext communicated soley through the mise-en-scene.

Music on the other hand is fairly easy to grapple. There are no hidden elements, at least not in the same sense. I'm not discrediting music in anyway, but I guess what I'm saying is, I'll see a film that will haunt me for days, it's ins and outs, a particular scene or even just a shot etc. etc. A song on the otherhand affects me while I'm listening to it, and not much afterwords. Sure I can talk for hours on end about said song, but a song is so much easier to get your head around.
Well put, I agree. I love films for their entertaining value too, don't get me wrong (Predator is a great action film), but a film like The Searchers is a wonderful work of art when you break it down and analyze it to really see what is going on. That's why I am upset that John Wayne got such hate in the John Royale game - you all must not have seen The Searchers! Though, really, the heavy stuff was all courtesy of John Ford.

Hey Droogs, did you like Red River? I watched it the other day and thought it was severely overrated. I expected a lot too, because I usually like Howard Hawks.

[quote][b][user]tmills[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] said: Most people I know who are really into movies are much more into the entertainment value of them than the meanings. In fact with arty esoteric films I find they are most often enjoyed by people who aren't huge film buffs. The film buffs I know like stuff like Saw, Predator and Nightmare on Elm Street. The casual movie lovers like stuff like Donnie Darko, A Clockwork Orange and Trainspotting.[/quote] I'm talking about films that actually require intellect and insight, which none of the above mentioned films really require. I think DD, ACO and Trainspotting are all relatively accessible films. Show one of those people The 400 Blows, or La Dolce Vita, relatively lightweight stuff and tell me if they get anything out of it. There are plenty of movie buffs who, as you stated, are just into the entertainment value, but that doesn't change the nature or potential of film as an artistic medium. "The meanings" is a pretty loaded word. Less than "meanings" i'm talking about the ability to perceive what is actually going on in a film. It's easy to look at John Ford's "The Searchers" and say "okay, so its a western and John Wayne has to save that chick from the evil indians". But there is so much more going on, not because there is a hidden meaning, but because there is an insane amount of subtext communicated soley through the mise-en-scene. Music on the other hand is fairly easy to grapple. There are no hidden elements, at least not in the same sense. I'm not discrediting music in anyway, but I guess what I'm saying is, I'll see a film that will haunt me for days, it's ins and outs, a particular scene or even just a shot etc. etc. A song on the otherhand affects me while I'm listening to it, and not much afterwords. Sure I can talk for hours on end about said song, but a song is so much easier to get your head around.[/quote] Well put, I agree. I love films for their entertaining value too, don't get me wrong (Predator is a great action film), but a film like The Searchers is a wonderful work of art when you break it down and analyze it to really see what is going on. That's why I am upset that John Wayne got such hate in the John Royale game - you all must not have seen The Searchers! Though, really, the heavy stuff was all courtesy of John Ford. Hey Droogs, did you like Red River? I watched it the other day and thought it was severely overrated. I expected a lot too, because I usually like Howard Hawks.[quote]

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- nkh disse...
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- Mai 20 2007, 11h06
ComeNowMyDroogs said:
you probably saw 24 Hour Party People... ring any bells?
Yes, it rings massive bells. I've seen that, but I don't think that is the one I was reffering too.. but, my memory is absolutely hopeless so I may be wrong.

Is there a scene in that when Ian Curtis (or mabye someone else?) has some kind of stroke/fit and starts pissing blood out his nose/face in the back of a VW van? If so, then it's that one I've seen.

[quote][b][user]nkh[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] said: you probably saw 24 Hour Party People... ring any bells? [/quote] Yes, it rings massive bells. I've seen that, but I don't think that is the one I was reffering too.. but, my memory is absolutely hopeless so I may be wrong. Is there a scene in that when Ian Curtis (or mabye someone else?) has some kind of stroke/fit and starts pissing blood out his nose/face in the back of a VW van? If so, then it's that one I've seen. [quote]

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- smimarchie disse...
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- Mai 21 2007, 12h24
hmm.

TV is WAY better than films.

[quote][b][user]smimarchie[/user][/b] disse: hmm. TV is WAY better than films.[quote]

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- nkh disse...
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- Mai 21 2007, 15h26
I don't watch a great deal of TV to be fair, mainly comedy shows and the occasional documentary affair. I'm far too addicted to Lost though, in a way that's probabaly not healthy.

In a way I wish the Sopranos hadn't finished, that was a fantastich show.

[quote][b][user]nkh[/user][/b] disse: I don't watch a great deal of TV to be fair, mainly comedy shows and the occasional documentary affair. I'm far too addicted to Lost though, in a way that's probabaly not healthy. In a way I wish the Sopranos hadn't finished, that was a fantastich show.[quote]

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- MNez disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 1h26
I watched the first three episodes of Lost and I just can't see how anyone likes it.

[quote][b][user]MNez[/user][/b] disse: I watched the first three episodes of Lost and I just can't see how anyone likes it.[quote]

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- andgoodbye disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 1h28
I see how people like it, I just never bothered to watch more than 10 minutes of it.

That was then, this is dumb.

[quote][b][user]andgoodbye[/user][/b] disse: I see how people like it, I just never bothered to watch more than 10 minutes of it.[quote]

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- Mod6 disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 2h37
Season finale this wednesday!!! Will Darla die?!?!?!?!!

As evident, I don't actually watch the show. Just hear everyone talking about it.

Agree that tv is better than film, but that's probably just because I don't watch much good film... and don't want to. I'm quite content with my blockbusters, sundance aint for me.
Rome, the wire and the office (quality comedy imo) are great. good tv

[quote][b][user]Mod6[/user][/b] disse: Season finale this wednesday!!! Will Darla die?!?!?!?!! As evident, I don't actually watch the show. Just hear everyone talking about it. Agree that tv is better than film, but that's probably just because I don't watch much good film... and don't want to. I'm quite content with my blockbusters, sundance aint for me. Rome, the wire and the office (quality comedy imo) are great. good tv[quote]

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- 80sfraud disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 2h59
I prefer heroes over lost, because its just like A COMIX!

[quote][b][user]80sfraud[/user][/b] disse: I prefer heroes over lost, because its just like A COMIX![quote]

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- jiroach6 disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 3h10
I love Lost. I'm absolutely addicted. Absolutely. It's genius.

And I like Heroes alright. I just kind of expected more surprises and suspense from it. I guess that's why I enjoy Lost so much. There's just another twist and turn every single episode. Love it.

Basically, I follow Lost, The Office, Scrubs, Heroes, South Park, and I liked the first season of Friday Night Lights, too.

[quote][b][user]jiroach6[/user][/b] disse: I love Lost. I'm absolutely addicted. Absolutely. It's genius. And I like Heroes alright. I just kind of expected more surprises and suspense from it. I guess that's why I enjoy Lost so much. There's just another twist and turn every single episode. Love it. Basically, I follow Lost, The Office, Scrubs, Heroes, South Park, and I liked the first season of Friday Night Lights, too. [quote]

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- themcrob disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 4h27
I'm addicted to the Wire after downloading the first three seasons. That's quality TV.

[quote][b][user]themcrob[/user][/b] disse: I'm addicted to the Wire after downloading the first three seasons. That's quality TV.[quote]

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- ComeNowMyDroogs disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 5h50
smimarchie said:
hmm.

TV is WAY better than films.

Hm. Nope.

Television is entirely commercial driven, it only exists so that companys can sell you to companies. With television, the product is the audience. The company pays networks for viewers. With television, there is no motivation to create quality shows; instead all that matters is how can you appease the most people at any given time.

Televison is a joke. There are some good show on the premium networks though. But nothing on film, ever, has come anywhere close to the film greats.

Man. You guys are really getting me down. How someone could ever consider themself a musical elitist yet have no interest in film in the same way is completely beyond me.

"I don't believe you go to heaven when you're good
Everything goes to hell anyway..."

[quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]smimarchie[/user][/b] said: hmm. TV is WAY better than films.[/quote] Hm. Nope. Television is entirely commercial driven, it only exists so that companys can sell you to companies. With television, the product is the audience. The company pays networks for viewers. With television, there is no motivation to create quality shows; instead all that matters is how can you appease the most people at any given time. Televison is a joke. There are some good show on the premium networks though. But nothing on film, ever, has come anywhere close to the film greats. Man. You guys are really getting me down. How someone could ever consider themself a musical elitist yet have no interest in film in the same way is completely beyond me. [quote]

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- Haarry disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 9h35
TV isn't entirely commercial driven.. it's just mostly dross. Plus how can you get with having to watch a certain thing at a certain time? Sucks.

Zhe Nhir @ http://www.lonelyrobotdistressbeacon.com/

[quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] disse: TV isn't entirely commercial driven.. it's just mostly dross. Plus how can you get with having to watch a certain thing at a certain time? Sucks.[quote]

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- nkh disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 11h29
ComeNowMyDroogs said:
Man. You guys are really getting me down. How someone could ever consider themself a musical elitist yet have no interest in film in the same way is completely beyond me.
Well, personally, if I'm at home and have free-time I'll put on a record to listen too, or look on the internet for something new to check out. I enjoy films, and I wouldn't be against getting more into it as a medium.. but, simple fact is.. I really don't have enough time to fit regular film watching into my schedule. I'd need to reduce listening to music, and why would I want to do that?

Haarry said:
TV isn't entirely commercial driven.. it's just mostly dross. Plus how can you get with having to watch a certain thing at a certain time? Sucks.
That's why things like Tevo, Sky+ and Freeview boxes with built in hard-drives rule. You can record, and pause things.. it's rather useful.

jiroach6 said:
I guess that's why I enjoy Lost so much. There's just another twist and turn every single episode. Love it.
Damn straight. It makes it so frustrating when you're watching it week to week though. A few folk I know have refused to watch it for months at a time, so that they can watch it all at once. I don't have the patience for that though.

By the way, do you know when Lost is due to end? I mean, the whole thing.. not this series.. originally it was meant to be three, then everyone was saying there'd be nine seasons.. now mabye only four?

[quote][b][user]nkh[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] said: Man. You guys are really getting me down. How someone could ever consider themself a musical elitist yet have no interest in film in the same way is completely beyond me. [/quote] Well, personally, if I'm at home and have free-time I'll put on a record to listen too, or look on the internet for something new to check out. I enjoy films, and I wouldn't be against getting more into it as a medium.. but, simple fact is.. I really don't have enough time to fit regular film watching into my schedule. I'd need to reduce listening to music, and why would I want to do that? [quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] said: TV isn't entirely commercial driven.. it's just mostly dross. Plus how can you get with having to watch a certain thing at a certain time? Sucks.[/quote] That's why things like Tevo, Sky+ and Freeview boxes with built in hard-drives rule. You can record, and pause things.. it's rather useful. [quote][b][user]jiroach6[/user][/b] said: I guess that's why I enjoy Lost so much. There's just another twist and turn every single episode. Love it.[/quote] Damn straight. It makes it so frustrating when you're watching it week to week though. A few folk I know have refused to watch it for months at a time, so that they can watch it all at once. I don't have the patience for that though. By the way, do you know when Lost is due to end? I mean, the whole thing.. not this series.. originally it was meant to be three, then everyone was saying there'd be nine seasons.. now mabye only four?[quote]

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- jiroach6 disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 16h03
nkh said:
By the way, do you know when Lost is due to end? I mean, the whole thing.. not this series.. originally it was meant to be three, then everyone was saying there'd be nine seasons.. now mabye only four?

A couple weeks ago ABC announced that they'll be doing 3 more seasons of 16 episodes. Apparently the writers are pretty happy with that number and think it's enough to explain everything without going on and on and on. Also, since they're only doing 16, instead of 24, for each season, they won't be doing that stupid hiatus thing again. That was such a pain in the ass this year.

But like I said...obsessed. I can't wait for tomorrow night. The first two season finales were brilliant, and I'm sure this'll be right up there with those. Mmm.

[quote][b][user]jiroach6[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]nkh[/user][/b] said: By the way, do you know when Lost is due to end? I mean, the whole thing.. not this series.. originally it was meant to be three, then everyone was saying there'd be nine seasons.. now mabye only four?[/quote] A couple weeks ago ABC announced that they'll be doing 3 more seasons of 16 episodes. Apparently the writers are pretty happy with that number and think it's enough to explain everything without going on and on and on. Also, since they're only doing 16, instead of 24, for each season, they won't be doing that stupid hiatus thing again. That was such a pain in the ass this year. But like I said...obsessed. I can't wait for tomorrow night. The first two season finales were brilliant, and I'm sure this'll be right up there with those. Mmm.[quote]

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- Mod6 disse...
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- Mai 22 2007, 21h45
Haarry said:
Plus how can you get with having to watch a certain thing at a certain time? Sucks.

Uh... dude torrenting. Watch it whenever you want on your comp (or I guess burn to disc).

[quote][b][user]Mod6[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]Haarry[/user][/b] said: Plus how can you get with having to watch a certain thing at a certain time? Sucks.[/quote] Uh... dude torrenting. Watch it whenever you want on your comp (or I guess burn to disc).[quote]

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- nkh disse...
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- Mai 23 2007, 0h32
jiroach6 said:
A couple weeks ago ABC announced that they'll be doing 3 more seasons of 16 episodes.

Ah, sweet. That's sounds like a rather good plan to be fair. The mid-season breaks are nothing short of infuriating. Also, if they're cutting a third from the season lengths it should move along a bit faster.

I'd be glad to see the back of episodes where the plot doesn't really develop.

That one with Hurley and the camper-van for example.. you got filled in on some of Hurley's personal story.. but it was all fairly inconsequential when you look at the big picture.

[quote][b][user]nkh[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]jiroach6[/user][/b] said: A couple weeks ago ABC announced that they'll be doing 3 more seasons of 16 episodes. [/quote] Ah, sweet. That's sounds like a rather good plan to be fair. The mid-season breaks are nothing short of infuriating. Also, if they're cutting a third from the season lengths it should move along a bit faster. I'd be glad to see the back of episodes where the plot doesn't really develop. That one with Hurley and the camper-van for example.. you got filled in on some of Hurley's personal story.. but it was all fairly inconsequential when you look at the big picture. [quote]

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- ComeNowMyDroogs disse...
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- Mai 23 2007, 17h40
I really don't understand the air of quality that Lost has somehow gained... it's embarassing to watch with people who really like it because you just want to laugh at everything.

"I don't believe you go to heaven when you're good
Everything goes to hell anyway..."

[quote][b][user]ComeNowMyDroogs[/user][/b] disse: I really don't understand the air of quality that Lost has somehow gained... it's embarassing to watch with people who really like it because you just want to laugh at everything. [quote]

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- wreckedangle disse...
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- Mai 23 2007, 18h25
television > movies

for me it doesnt even come close
when programs exist on hbo/showtime/fx that basically function as 13-hour films with one continuous storyline, how can hollywood possibly compete?
i realize a lot of you are talking art-house/independent films and the like
however, i look at films as stories rather than paintings
i can be impressed by direction and cinematography but when it comes down to it, that kind of shit means nothing to me if the film is boring, pretentious or just generally takes itself too seriously
when it comes down to it, the shit is just entertainment
same goes for music
it can mean a lot to you but its not meant to be taken that seriously
its not life

[quote][b][user]wreckedangle[/user][/b] disse: television > movies for me it doesnt even come close when programs exist on hbo/showtime/fx that basically function as 13-hour films with one continuous storyline, how can hollywood possibly compete? i realize a lot of you are talking art-house/independent films and the like however, i look at films as stories rather than paintings i can be impressed by direction and cinematography but when it comes down to it, that kind of shit means nothing to me if the film is boring, pretentious or just generally takes itself too seriously when it comes down to it, the shit [i]is[/i] just entertainment same goes for music it can mean a lot to you but its not meant to be taken that seriously its not life[quote]

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- wreckedangle disse...
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- Mai 23 2007, 18h26
ps. lost blows

the wire is better than anything

id meant to add the fact that when it comes to films, these days documentaries interest me more than anything

[quote][b][user]wreckedangle[/user][/b] disse: ps. lost blows the wire is better than anything id meant to add the fact that when it comes to films, these days documentaries interest me more than anything[quote]

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