STFU - End Gothic Snobbery

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Líder: shoogle195
Política de associação: Aberta
Criado em: 3 Ago 2009
A group for goths tired of fighting, bickering, and rudeness.

I'm sure most of you know what I'm talking about. All over the internet, and even in the sanctity of our clubs, there's strife and in-fighting. Everywhere people argue, troll, and flame when some poor soul accidentally mentions a band or artist that isn't Bauhaus, The Sisters of Mercy, or associated with Rozz Williams.

I think the state of our culture is disgusting. If we want to paint the future black and keep our scene alive, we have to collectively shut up and be as tolerate as we claim to be. A person should not be kicked around, yelled at, or disrespected because their musical taste is versatile.

The narrow-mindedness of our scene causes bad blood and turns people away from discovering the old, great music that we defend way too violently. We complain about how no one appreciates the influence of Alien Sex Fiend while we do nothing positive to encourage exploration and growth.

Let's revive interest in the scene by not being rude. Let's remember our roots in punk and glam without discrediting new acts and shunning people who listen to a little more Nightwish than they do Fields of the Nephilim. Enough about Manson, Hot Topic, and HIM. It's old news.

This group is related to dark music in general, be it deathrock, darkwave, industrial, EBM, futurepop, gothic metal, nu metal, synthpop, etc.

Keep it dark.

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  • ringwraith10

    v Thank you! I hate it when people insist that goth is a genre. Bleh. Then they will want to be the ones who get to define which bands are included in that genre and which are not.

    4 Nov 2013 Responder
  • TheSybilline

    I like this group. It bothers me to see people who have gone through the pain of being judged, actually go around judging other people.

    9 Out 2012 Responder
  • Gothika1993

    We wouldn't be Goth if we didn't have this 'feistiness'. This "snobbery", as you call it, is what is preventing all the slipknot and korn fans from invading our subculture, and hijacking our style. Its the opposite of what we need...

    12 Set 2012 Responder
  • kaminekosan

    Holy shit, this group is the opposite of what it needs to be. So much for the "all-for-one" aspect. Damn.

    8 Set 2012 Responder
  • Nerothos

    I'm pretty torn between three points here. 1) Anti-snobbery, aka. 'just accepting everything as goth' is just as stupid as is snobbery. There is somewhere a fine line of niveau that has to be reached, else i won't even recognize something as music, yet as "gothic". 2) Snobbery as in "being trve, and sooo darq and devoted to XY-which-is-the-only-trve-band-there-is" is, what pisses me off. That's exact the conformist-b.s. i don't want to have. 3) Mentioning Sisters of Mercy in the same sentence as 'gothic' brings you flaming and hate - by the Sisters themselves, lol...

    18 Jul 2012 Responder
  • NurVerzweiflung

    Read "My Immortal" by Tara Gilesbie and then tell me we should welcome everyone who wants to call themselves "goth" with open arms. Should we define goth as general as "anything dark"? Ask yourself this, do you want Juggalos included in our subculture? They certainly look the part to everyone else. Where do we draw the line here? This lovey dovey subculture-ecumenicism is only going to perpetuate the misconceptions that make us look ridiculous.

    8 Jun 2012 Responder
  • Sultanis

    Lady Blablah in charts? So goth man, better being a snob and having your own opinion that being a trendy bitch.

    10 Mai 2012 Responder
  • Ms_Maleficium

    Snobbery is rife in every subculture that claims superiority in any aspect. black metal, goth, indie hipster fucktards, industrial, you name it. Resistance is futile, get over it.

    8 Mar 2012 Responder
  • xVictimOfADownx

    I think we should be more concerned with The Beatles Snobs. [2]

    27 Dez 2011 Responder
  • ChibiFan7

    hello out there. im not gothic but i very much support the gothic subculture scene. every gothic person i've ever met has been super duper nice to me, hugers! every single one of them. not sure i've ever met a snobby one before but that would sure suck.

    3 Dez 2011 Responder
  • ZelosWilder88

    It goes both ways. I've had other baby bats tell me Fields of Nephilim and Siouxsie And The Banshees arent as "goth" as Evanescence or Marilyn Manson. Its not that the old guard think they're better, it's that they feel like they're the only ones that still apreciate the older bands. The newer goths would be better received if the majority of them weren't getting their info of the culture off of Wikipedia and the media...

    28 Nov 2011 Responder
  • blaqjack

    this is all Marilyn Manson and Hot Topics fault. the publics' confusion with real goths and (evanasence)mallgoths. In snobby goths' defense. All "cliques" are snobby, you're either not metal enough not punk enough or not goth enough. nothing new.

    16 Nov 2011 Responder
  • blaqjack

    Goth snobbery will never dissapear. As long as there will be cliquey assholes who want to be the gothiest goth to ever have gothed, then there will always be snobbery in the scene. #2

    16 Nov 2011 Responder
  • KurtBell

    I think we should be more concerned with The Beatles Snobs.

    20 Out 2011 Responder
  • adelinadarkstar

    Then again by reading all these messages I see so much drama in this group already (sigh)

    15 Out 2011 Responder
  • adelinadarkstar

    Haha totally love the meaning of this group, I hate fascist attitudes when it comes to the gothic subculture.

    15 Out 2011 Responder
  • mothcake

    Goth snobbery will never dissapear. As long as there will be cliquey assholes who want to be the gothiest goth to ever have gothed, then there will always be snobbery in the scene. I'm sorry I'm ranting. Too many kids like that ruined the whole goth experience for me.

    20 Ago 2011 Responder
  • MrsAdiee

    Rule one of Lady GaGa has to be in the charts of at least 90% groups. [2]

    13 Ago 2011 Responder
  • PirateDolly13

    "wtf is lady gaga doing in the charts? -.- " Rule one of Lady GaGa has to be in the charts of at least 90% groups.

    7 Ago 2011 Responder
  • clytie_hizashi

    But again, it's too much SRS BSNS anyway. Life is short, and love is always over in the morning, etc.etc.

    31 Jul 2011 Responder
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