Post Dubstep

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Criado em: 8 Fev 2011
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Dubstep is dead. Long live Post-Dubstep!

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  • jbond

    http://thequietus.com/articles/08595-hyperspecific-12-electronic-music-review http://www.spin.com/blogs/genre-shall-not-be-named-dubstep http://thequietus.com/articles/07786-hyperspecific-09-electronic-music-review "PostWutULike - We'll name it later" Which kind of sums up the problem. There's undoubtedly a whole lot of cross fertilisation in the (mainly) UK (sub) bass-heavy musics melting pot. It's crossing boundaries, genres, BPMs. It owes a debt to the early days of dubstep and the Nuum. And whether we have the words, names or boxes to put it into is kind of irrelevant. But without the words, how are we going to talk about it?

    Mês passado
  • maxtm

    check out: http://soundcloud.com/ichinen

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  • Prodygal

    http://www.last.fm/music/Subaeris

    abril 2012
  • Baster_Jazzster

    Listen Up my mix! http://www.mixcloud.com/FUNTOMASS/garage-room-baster-jazzters-mix/

    abril 2012
  • jbond

    http://dj.dancecult.net/index.php/journal/article/view/47/79 Simon Reynolds on the Nuum, take 2. The doubter's stance is: "do we still need this model, this way of looking at the recent musical past?" (The implication being that it's optional, just one choice of prism from many). The right question is: "what actually happened back then?" From there, the next questions are "what did it mean?" and "what, if anything, can we learn from it, in terms of how music and culture works?" ISTM there's a thing going on now where some aspects of what dubstep brought to the party have been absorbed by a whole bunch of people who come from disparate genres. They're generally working with a darker, chilled, more ambient feel. So what they're doing is post dubstep because it needed dubstep to point the way. And unfortunately the easiest way to make sense of it and describe it to other people is to start inventing genre names that give them a hint of what you mean by all that.

    fevereiro 2012
  • gloomybear31593

    why cant we all just get along=D

    fevereiro 2012
  • dubstep24com

    GET MORE DUBSTEP! http://www.last.fm/group/dubstep24com and http://dubstep24.com !

    fevereiro 2012
  • commonly

    I fail to understand how this group limits dubstep´s creativity?!? Its just a small group for people who like similar kind of music. They can post f their own music here, like many have already done. This is a creative process.. if u dont understand it then we have not much to discuss about anymore. People who like different kind of dubstep will continue to make it despite this group...

    fevereiro 2012
  • ThatDeviantOne

    By creating or supporting such a term you're placing a limitation on the genre, its creativity, its reach. You talk about sub genres, for example for rock you have post rock, punk rock etc. Those are different styles and different takes on the same theme. "What comes after" isn't a new style on the same theme, it's (surprise surprise) what comes after. And as shown by your need to back up a terrible pitchfork-ism, the experimentation that's marked the last 2-3 yeas of dubstep proves that wondering what "comes after" for dubstep is a thought you shouldn't have to worry about for quite some time

    fevereiro 2012
  • ThatDeviantOne

    "The main point that distinguishes me from u is that if someone would come up with a new name " And yet the problem here is that you seem to think it needs a new name, or that it should have one, and you're assuming that I'm pedantic about there being a term! Of course post dubstep should refer to what "comes after dubstep", but in all honesty every artist that could ever possibly be reffered to as post dubstep is either still making dubstep tunes, just with new influences (and for a genre that's already a hybrid experimentation is nothing new thus negating the idea for separation) or they have nothing in common with dubstep whatsoever and have simply been added by association, the whole "oh hey it's UK bass music at around 130-140 bpm, best add that to the post dubstep list" It's simply such a pointless endeavor, especially when all it amounts too is equates to telling an artist that they've apparently stepped beyond the borders of a genre they helped define

    fevereiro 2012
  • commonly

    Secondly i havent stated that dubstep artists arent anymore dubstep, its your fantasy. There are still a few guys that make the real thing - Coki, Digital Mystics, Benga.... „All you're really doing is robbing a genre of its ability to be experimental“ Let me tell u kid that coming up with a sub genre name isnt classified as robbing the genre, but nameing its different parts. Few examples for u Rock - post rock, punk rock, country rock, grunge...House – deep house, tribal house, disco house....etc. etc. Havent stated that dubstep cant be made anymore. Its made now and will be made in the future. The main point of this group is to state that dubstep´s glory days are over and the growth and experimentation of it have emerged something whole new. Peace and love!

    fevereiro 2012
  • commonly

    First of all i didnt invent the term and i didnt decide to call it post dubstep. I agree that all connections here are not similar. Never the less, they can be described as music that launched after dubstep - i belive all of them have been inspired in some way by dubstep, yet they arent in that genre. And thats what the name also says...Post-Dubstep( After- Dubstep). Its simple like that. The main point that distinguishes me from u is that if someone would come up with a new name and a new reasonable concept that post-dubstep is a old thing already, then i would accept it and take it as a another possibility to categorize the scene. I wouldnt get all silly and childish and hate on him.

    fevereiro 2012
  • ThatDeviantOne

    By stating that dubstep artists are now no longer dubstep artists but post dubstep artists instead (and there are artists here that haven't changed their style since they first came out 4-5 years ago) all you're really doing is robbing a genre of its ability to be experimental. If any kind of deviation to YOUR plan of what dubstep is is made, all of a sudden no, must be post dubstep. Where does that leave dubstep then? In the hands of Americans? I'll continue to listen to my dubstep and my garage and not worry if it starts to sound just a lil' different. because that''s called growth and experimentation, not a new genre or sub-genre or sub-sub genre

    fevereiro 2012
  • ThatDeviantOne

    Of course there's no question of it, but what I find funny is that as soon as it happened you decided to call all of it post dubtstep. You've got stuff in here that isn't related to the genre in any way whatsoever outside of the fact that it's from the UK, is around 130bpm to 140 bpm and has bass. I don't think dubstep is the genre of dance music that will ever exist, but the fact that you've latched onto that idea, by having everything new marked down as still a part of the movement points towards you not wanting to let it go yourself - and obviously don't have the slightest idea how the music sphere is in a constant state of change.

    fevereiro 2012
  • commonly

    Theres no question about it that in the end of the 00-s a new kind of dance music emerged. Theres also no qustion about it that some childish wannabe´s like u loose their nerves when someone tries to name a new style of music. Nothing new . "but the simple fact of the matter is that Burial has always made and will always continue to make 2step" guess u are the manager of Burial, that u know that he will always make 2step. See, artist evolve and normally it is described as a virtue. Therefor their style also changes. If u think that dubstep and 2step are the last two generes that dance music has to offer then u haven't got the slightest idea how the whole music sphere is in a constant change. Another question is how to name those new styles of music. and I think that someone who is interested in this kind of music and tries to give it a name shouldnt be marked as idiot, moron. Basically ur statement here didnt say nothing new or informative, so think for a while next time u write smth

    fevereiro 2012
  • ThatDeviantOne

    @commonly This is such a ridiculous and moronic statement. Ignoring the fact that there is no such thing as post dubstep (it's a journalitsic term coined by a bunch of non-Englishman who got confused by the fact that dubstep and 2step all of a sudden stopped meeting their expectations and stereotypes) but the simple fact of the matter is that Burial has always made and will always continue to make 2step. Sure he experiments (as artists typically tend to do) but no one back in '07 proclaimed that Untrue was in anyway different from other releases of the same ilk. It wasn't until a bunch of misinformed idiots who coined the term suddenly realized that Burial all of a sudden fit THEIR description of "post dubtsep". In the words of Kuedo: "anyone with any common sense would shriek at the term".

    fevereiro 2012
  • karolsbtls

    some of my post-dubstep music : http://soundcloud.com/sbtls check that ! :)

    fevereiro 2012
  • commonly

    Somebody suggested Bass Vibe. Sounds legit. Would change the group name now if i could. For post-dupstep haters its bass vibe from now on, feel free to hate that name as well.

    fevereiro 2012
  • jbond

    Need a name for this stuff that doesn't have the "step" syllable in it. Seems to me there def is a 2010-2011 aesthetic here. It borrows from some early dubstep (Loefah, Kode9) but it also borrows from deep house and tecno. It's bass led. It's mostly UK based but not exclusively. Stoners like it (ahem). Like deep-house, the groove is probably more important than the drop or The One. Unfortunately dubs**p has jumped the shark and it's no longer terribly useful to call this stuff post-dubs**p

    janeiro 2012
  • commonly

    10 Reasons Why We Hate Skrillex http://mthrfnkr.com/post/16819434995/10-this-was-his-musical

    janeiro 2012
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