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• aibom escreveu:
  Terça de manhã

  The fact that it's generally considered fine for Pagans to incorporate Christianity into their faith but not Christians to incorporate Paganism into their faith, says loads about the problem with Christianity and it's tolerance for people in involved, who put European heritage highly. Christianity is a global and non-heritage ideology, which anyone can be a part of so long as they view this desert faith above their own heritage, and before everything else in life. If anything, it asks for a selfless, submitting, noncultural spread of the gospel to all peoples without a single care for culture. It cares nothing for the race, ethnicity, nationality, heritage, culture, or whatever of the people involved. It only seeks to have the entire world embrace Christ in Unity. Much like the song "Jesus loves the little children". Cultural preservation is heretical to the Christian faith. As it would be against Unity and therefor against the gospel.

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• aibom escreveu:
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  Martial Industrial may have come for a Europe at a point of being largely Christian. Though from my understanding, it is growing largely more and more atheistic. And the majority of the people involved in Martial Industrial, are certainly non-Christian. The general mentality of Black Metal, Neofolk, and Martial Industrial about Christianity and Europe, is that is has helped to suppress the "European soul" and true Romanticism about ancestors and heritage, because quite frankly, such does not agree with the values of the Christian faith. There are many Christians who cannot even stand Christmas trees. Who want to stamp out Yule. Who do not want their children to partake in Halloween. Who would rather their children learn Hebrew than an Indo-European language. Christianity only cares about Christianity and cares nothing for the traditions of Europe in the end, and if anything, finds them counterproductive to the Christian way.

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• Coffinwood_Mill escreveu:
  Sábado de manhã

  All societies are damned to ruin, moral decay, abuse of power and corruption, and most of all inherent and decisive fallibility that allow their erosion in the first place. Such is the nature of humanity.

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• Heilig_Zorn escreveu:
  Mês passado

  If the christian society is not "better" than the pagan one there's not a reason to accept it.

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• MilkChan escreveu:
  Mês passado

  Superior in the sense, that they're more powerful / stronger / vital. That doesn't necessarily mean "better" nor does that mean that the new society represents values I agree with.

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• Heilig_Zorn escreveu:
  Mês passado

  You're saying societies that overcome others are superior. That's exactly what's happening, the analogy is valid.

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• MilkChan escreveu:
  Mês passado

  No, that's not what I'm saying.

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• Heilig_Zorn escreveu:
  Mês passado

  According to your line of thought the pro-homossexual, multicultural, progressist, liberal, drug-abusing, libertartian society that's being instituted is superior to a christian society defended by conservatives. In general, you're saying the moral decay that affects the human kind is superior to the honourable values on which societies used to rely. We both know it's not.

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• MilkChan escreveu:
  Mês passado

  If pre-christian Europe had been superior, it would have not become christian. Christian Europe has achieved many great things, martial industrial being one of them.

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• Heilig_Zorn escreveu:
  Mês passado

  The only view impossible to take here is the one that assumes that an asiatic plague which our ancestors fought and died against is actually the synthesis of their true values. You want to praise this judaism for the gentile, go ahead, but for the point you're trying to accept that as the true cultural identity of the european forefathers... that's just too far away, shame on you. Coming to speak about MI, I don't understand why people are trying to institute this cult in a style that is openly pro-European tradition.

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• Breitenfeldt escreveu:
  Mês passado

  Of course I'm aware of the discussion, and of your less-than-idolizing attitude towards Christians and Christianity. But since it's impossible to take your views seriously, let alone engaging in some kind of discussion about them, I just wanted to propose that you spend less energy defaming Christian Europe, and more energy discussing the wonderful genre that is martial industrial. But I realize that's not likely to happen...

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• Heilig_Zorn escreveu:
  Mês passado

  You're telling me christianity is "european" for a minor influence of the sumerian people in a majorly semitic babylonian society? Come on...

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• Grom1983 escreveu:
  Mês passado

  The Sumerians are not Semitic and neither is their language, in fact it is an isolated language. Christianity is a Babylonian religion, a perverted version that is used for purpose of control. I think we can both agree on that. The truth is hidden for the masses about the true symbolism in these religions, mainly to suppress mans potential.

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• Heilig_Zorn escreveu:
  Mês passado

  You should probably be aware of what has been posted here. Some moron was insuflating the community with spam of a group against Islam which openly promotes christianity and democracy. I treat turds like turds, and little things do not irritate or make me upset in anyway. You might want to cut the crap and direct your efforts to a productive conversation instead of this small talk you're selling right now.

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• Breitenfeldt escreveu:
  Mês passado

  "Shut the fuck up you turd." etc... if that's you not being irritated in any way, I wouldn't want to see you upset :)

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• Heilig_Zorn escreveu:
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  @Breitenfekdt: What for? I'm not irritated in any way, it's just a nick [...] badly written shall I stress. @Grom1983: The babylonians and the egyptians were both semite peoples, what the hell does this have to do with Europe?

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• Breitenfeldt escreveu:
  Mês passado

  Heilig_Zorn, I know what your name means, but have you considered taking a chill pill?

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• Grom1983 escreveu:
  Mês passado

  Judeo-Christianity is hardly a semetic religion in fact. The Jews were captives of the Babylonians and Egyptians, the two greatest civilizations in the region. Both Zoroastrianism and the Aten cult are entwined in the origins of monotheism, and the emergence of the Abrahamic religion. Not to mention the influence of European monolatrism, previously also monotheism on the creators of the Church.

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• soundestrukt escreveu:
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  http://www.last.fm/music/Protozoan

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• vileone escreveu:
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  Judgehydrogen is giving away his albums http://judgehydrogen.blogspot.com/ I thought you might be interested friends.

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