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    • tehee10 disse...
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    • Fev 20 2010, 15h55
    (He doesn't mean 70x7 in the literal 490 times, sense

    i get a newsletter from these guys and here's what from back in '08

    it was an interesting article anyways...

    The "gay gene"

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  • Some years later, the Kinsey researchers famously reported the case of a happily married young woman who, 10 years into her marriage, unexpectedly fell in love with a female friend. Divorcing her husband, she set up house with this woman. Many years later, despite a fulfilling ongoing lesbian relationship, she had an equally satisfying affair with a man. Examples of sexual flexibility, like that of this woman, don’t square with genetic theories of rigid erotic predestination.

    That really stuck out to me.
    My best friend/cousin all of a sudden made the choice to be a lesbian. For the last few years she always said she was bi-sexual, but now she's completely against the fact that she is in any way attracted to a male species. Overlooking the fact that she is a young and naive 21 year old, who has 3 children she can't support from "deadbeat" guys that she has chosen along the way. (the fact that she has 3 children goes to show that she is obviously in some way, attracted to men. let alone that she has all her babie's daddys name's tattooed on her body.) And yes, I am Mexican and grew up in the ghetto if you can't tell haha.

    I suppose if it wasn't for her irrational choosing of sexual partners, she wouldn't feel the need to "swing to the other side of the tree." If it wasn't for those deadbeats, she wouldn't have had bad experiences, living through hell trying to raise 3 small children on her own with no job. (even though she should have restrained her sexual desires in the first place.) Therefore she wouldn't feel like all men are scum.

    Knowing her personally, and growing up by her side, I know for a fact she is confused. I know she is just hurt. She's trying to find some sort of "I'm wanted" feeling. From all her bad experiences she feels she has no where else to look besides to women.

    Almost the same thing happened with one of my best friends. I met her through her brother. When I met her, she wasn't lesbian. She actually ended up dating and "loving" one of my good friends. He treated her well, and they supposedly loved each other. Out of no where, she splits. Comes back a few months later, dressing completely different and having homosexual tendencies. She is now dating women. She made the choice. My cousin made the choice. I strongly believe all homosexuals make the "choice."

    Thanks for that article. It was very, very interesting.

    • tehee10 disse...
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    • Fev 20 2010, 21h17
    well, an example from my side is one of the seniors I go to school with...She was always into guys and so were her friends...She had a really bad boyfriend, but like several girls i've seen...they just don't get out of the relationship...this last summer one of her friends turned lesbian and now she is too....but these two friends aren't each others partners...and as to how active idk...I still wondered whether it was just to go along with her friends or not...especially since she always liked guys and she had a butthole of a one the last time...In any case, I wonder how all of the scientific evidence stacks up along with bestiality and that type of thing...Is the brain geared toward that direction too, or is there a fantasy/lack of bf/gf..

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  • Totally agree with what you're trying to say. That can also be said for anything else also. Is a rapists BORN that way? Is a child molester BORN that way? Sad thing is, there are plenty of people who support the idea of then being born with these problems. In the end, does that even matter? It's still wrong..

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    • Fev 21 2010, 15h24
    genghiskhaaan said:
    Totally agree with what you're trying to say. That can also be said for anything else also. Is a rapists BORN that way? Is a child molester BORN that way? Sad thing is, there are plenty of people who support the idea of then being born with these problems. In the end, does that even matter? It's still wrong..


    Ok... I'm just going to make my comment on this topic here. First off you are NOT delineating between genetic predisposition and fetishism. Fetishism is a psychological connection with something that can develop during adolescents. Now, there is no genetic modifier that can make you choose one fetish over another. Such as people that like bondage or people that don't. Considering how prevalent fetishes are in any society at any point in time I would say this is not an abnormal psychological trait for humans. Things like bestiality could come from this aspect of our psyche. Child molestation could come from the same place (sex with children is also something that is common throughout human history). The only difference now is that as a culture we've decided that these are "deviant" behaviors. It doesn't magically make the girl who "loves" her dog immoral, dogs can't think on that level anyway. The only concession I will make is that child molestation DOES have negative psychological ramifications, because humans CAN think on that higher level. Humans that engage in things like bestiality don't do it to "hurt" animals, they do love them and generate a "relationship" around them.

    Rapists on the other hand aren't coming from a place of "fetishism" or being "born" to want that kind of sex. These are angry people and they exhibit their anger on others. It has nothing to do with what you're trying to talk about here.

    Now as for homosexuality there ARE genetic implications. People can be born gay, obviously this doesn't show up till adolescence. Your sexual attraction to men shouldn't have developed until YOU started going through puberty. Do you honestly feel like you "chose" to be heterosexual? Did you sit down and weigh the pros and cons of choosing one gender over the other? Did you setup a cost benefit analysis to help make your decision more logical? Or did you just "go with it"?

    That being said, you have to understand that nature does NOT play a "black and white" game. Meaning, that if people with genetic modifiers showing they are gay vs. heterosexual then there is a whole spectrum in between where people are faced with a choice because they could be attracted to both genders. There are some who can be equally attracted to both genders and some who have preference of one over the other, but not a completely black and white choice. Now I think the only reason you believe Gay people "have a choice" is because for most gay people they are growing up in a society that says "being gay is wrong". Parents expect heterosexual children, and most children, want to live up to that expectation. I think a lot of Christians use this excuse to try and dismiss homosexuality as something that just is. They want it to be a "choice" because then that passage in Leviticus about it being an abomination could be more true. But if people are being "born gay", and God makes everyone, then God is making gay people. I think Christians use this to try and ignore the reality of the situation, they want it to be black and white.


    So then why is AIDS more common in the gay community?

    Meh.


    Uhm... well it's because of anal sex really. It has to be spread INTO the blood stream and from what I was reading anal sex can cause more small "tears" inside a person than normal vaginal sex. And since gay men predominantly engage in anal sex it makes sense there would be a higher risk there. Heterosexual women can also engage in this activity, thus they can get it to and then spread it to other people. There's still a risk of spreading it vaginally, it's just not nearly as high.

    Here's a link if you care Spread of HIV

    On the topic of marriage... this is where the real world comes in. It doesn't matter how you want to define marriage by your Bible or beliefs, when it comes to the actual Law, which is the reality we live in, that's what I'm talking about. So if Christians want to actually start having an opinion on Gay marriage, they actually need to work WITHIN the system. Since you live in a country that has "freedom of religion" that means there are more than just Christians out there and it means that Christians aren't supposed to get special benefits. It doesn't matter if you think "marriage is supposed to be under God", that's an added value that has nothing to do with the actual law as established by our federal government. The government does not define marriage this way, thus when I speak of marriage I speak of the legality associated with the term.

    And finally, as for relationship vs. religion, I DO understand what you're saying. It just doesn't change the fact that it's a religion because it has dogmatic principles. The fact that these aspects of your relationship have absolutely no bearing on reality would make it a religion. My relationship with my girlfriend isn't a religion because I didn't develop a fundamental set of beliefs about how the world began, how nature works, my purpose in the universe, or develop a set of rituals for this. Even if I did this, it still wouldn't really be a religion, because then I'd have to get WAY more people to agree to it with absolutely no proof of what I make up. That would be a cult though, if I got more people.

    On "looking forward", I guess what I'm asking here is "what exactly are you looking forward to?" You say life with Jesus, ok, but what do you do? Just eternity with him? That's it?

    I do understand the want and desire for a "higher purpose". Something MORE beyond this material world. So yes, I do understand and it's not "entirely foolish" as you keep saying. It's foolish in a "reality" aspect, but in terms of human desires it's not foolish (if that makes sense to you). It really could also be a survival mechanism, a reason to keep on living. If you can't define meaning for your own life, let someone else do it. This someone is Jesus. That way you feel like you have a purpose. A reason to do mundane jobs, keep working, etc. Hence the whole "the meek will inherit the earth", they won't become revolutionaries because their "reward" is not here on this world.

    I walk my path again, as I had walked before so many aeons ago. I was there. The world has been lead astray, thus I destroy faith.

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  • This song really stuck out to me today.
    It has a lot to do what what we were talking about earlier in the conversation. About judgmental Christians, and what "sins" are considered a sin for some, but not for others. We're all different.
    What is this I see? Can we not get along? Discord in the body shows me something is wrong. Difference of opinion brings about your hate. The way that we view life makes you so irate. Why can't you see there's no unity in the way you hate me just because we don't agree? Send us your hate mail in the name of Christ. Insult us, bash us, but don't play nice. I'm sure the Father's proud of the way you treat your brother. It's sad to say the Christian way is beating up each other. Not everything is black and white. What makes us wrong? What makes you right? I'm a Christian, too, but I would never want to be like you. We see things differently. You don't know my heart, and you don't know me. Stop holding this grudge, why don't you let God be my judge? Your convictions, they are not mine. The way you act is out of line.

  • also,

    Sorry I haven't had time to reply to your last post. I've been really busy. I will read & reply soon. Promise.

    • wimme disse...
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    Difference of opinion brings about your hate. The way that we view life makes you so irate. Why can't you see there's no unity in the way you hate me just because we don't agree?...
    Proverbs 18:2
    A fool finds no pleasure in understanding
    but delights in airing his own opinions.

    • tehee10 disse...
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    • Fev 24 2010, 1h30
    A fool finds no pleasure in understanding
    but delights in airing his own opinions.


    I think the just of that verse = "I the fool like to let my mouth run as though truth is coming forth, but I won't listen...."

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  • There are a lot of bands that kind of creep me out, but I think they're all trying to express their feelings about beliefs. I guess if you don't agree with what they are trying to say, it's not a bad thing. We all are trying to get some point across anyway, whether or not people like it. Although, I am not a big fan of MAJOR screamo music. Those kind of people, I think, just make noise!

  • Danzig

    I believe in God's promises. ''good vs evil at all times.''
    ( right now somewhere, someone is listening to the same song! music can bring us together)
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    • Abr 27 2010, 14h57

    Re:Re:.......

    FireMadeFlesh said:
    Fallingup1986 said:
    hahaha christian bands as alternatives don't work, most christian bands imitate art and suck, well the main ones do anyway.

    Huge amen there. I hate it when people talk about "christian alternatives" to secular bands. It's not art if they're trying to sound like someone else. I'd prefer to just not listen to something than to listen to a subpar carbon copy.


    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! I totally agree!! Bands I love that I would rather not hear the "alternative" for even if they cuss:
    Strike Anywhere This is one of my all time favorites!!
    Rise Against
    Dispatch
    Passenger
    Beach House
    Fanfarlo
    Counting Crows
    Matchbox 20
    Gin Blossoms
    Jack's Mannequin
    Kings of Leon
    ......I think you get the point. Most Christian bands suck (I didn't say all).
    Christian bands that don't suck:
    Jars Of Clay
    ........I meant band that doesn't suck! I'm well aware that people will get offended, but this is MY opinion.

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  • This whole thread is pretty twisted. Ok, after reading most of the previous posts, I basically agree that some "satanic" or "anti-christian" bands are just putting on a show to get attention while others really believe what they say in their songs. I don't listen to metal in the first place so I've never heard of any of those bands and I won't enter that discussion.

    In any case, whatever you believe in, it shouldn't affect your beliefs what other people say. So the whole "stay away from these bands because they're against christianity and they'll make you question your faith" point is really naive. I don't need to agree with the political or religious views of the musicians I like to appreciate their talent. If you have no personality and you think "evil" (whatever that means) bands are going to induce you to make bad things, well that's too bad.

    Anyway, I think the closest to "anti-christian" music I've ever heard are songs by agnostic artists who are just disappointed or disenchanted by religious institutions or horrified by all the awful things people can do in the name of religion. And that I can totally understand and empathize to.

    • 8GotH8 disse...
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    • Ago 25 2010, 20h11
    i think you should stay away form christianity instead of worrying about "satanic bands"....brainwashed people

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  • ^^ Whatever. Although I admit I can't take these "satanism in music" theories seriously anymore since I saw a guy on youtube who claimed that Bat for Lashes is a satanist. YEAH, SURE. Srsly dude get a life.

  • hmmm i think MM has some awesome music, slipknot is ok i guesss....as for the others i don think i have listened to mayb i have. idk. but like others have said they do things for show and ratings. its wut the fans look in to. but me i like music. from certain songs or groups i listen the instruments, sum to their lyrics. obviously there are those groups who are seriously worshiping satan and are easy to spot nd we prob shouldn listen to. i also think that if ur faith is strong then it wont hurt to listen to "worldly" music. its like wut ive told my pastor when he says to me that music is bad for u...its only bad for me if i let it b bad or evil. its like when he says dont watch harry potter cuz its witch craft, im like chill its entertainment, as long as i dont believe in it im ok...ill stop im gettin off topic here:p



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  • I think there is a lot to be said of the old adage of "know thy enemy" You can listen to something and not adhere to what they profess.

    Marilyn Manson (Brian Warner) was or still is a member of the church of Satan, who outwardly preach that everyone is their own God and also promote a hedonistic lifestyle, based on Aleister Crowley's saying "Do what thou wilt".

    There is an abundance of Satanic symbolism in a lot of Television programmes, music videos, some of which you would never think would have such symbolism, do some research on the subject. If you truly wanted to "stay away" from any sort of Satanic influences you will have to throw away the TV and most of the popular music.
    John Lennon also stated that the whole idea of the Beatles was "Do what thou wilt" again Mr Crowley. Moreover, the Sgt. Peppers album featured "Heroes" of the Beatles members, Aleister Crowley is featured on this cover, second person, Top row on the left hand side.

    For those who do not know, Aleister Crowley or as he and his own mother called him "The beast 666" was an infamous satanist and occultist, a truly evil man.

    Jimmy Page is a fan of Aleister Crowley and his teachings and even bought his house, there is a whole list of people who outwardly or clandestinely believe in occult practices. Frankly there is not much chance of escaping it. But your faith should be the armour in which you trust, therefore any such influence will be rendered ineffective against you.

    One final comment, Anton LaVey the Church of Satan founder begged for mercy on his death bed, which leads me to believe that God caught up with him.

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    • Nov 10 2011, 16h27
    I definitely support fanatical Christians removing themselves from society in fear of "Satan". Luckily I prescribe to a philosophy that is even more threatening than Satan, so I laugh at the concerns of Christians that fear Satan.

    I walk my path again, as I had walked before so many aeons ago. I was there. The world has been lead astray, thus I destroy faith.

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    • wimme disse...
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    • Dez 11 2011, 1h47
    Do not keep talking so proudly or let your mouth speak such arrogance,
    for the LORD is a God who knows, and by him deeds are weighed (1 Samuel 2:3).

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    • Dez 16 2011, 16h47

    I highly recommend this film to see

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