russians in georgia

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- bald_gye disse...
- Assinante
- Ago 18 2008, 15h05
does Russia prove that socialism works? I'm confused...

[quote][b][user]bald_gye[/user][/b] disse: does Russia prove that socialism works? I'm confused...[quote]

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- Citizen1 disse...
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- Ago 19 2008, 9h45
I love how America are already involved in this. They always have to get involved, don't they? If Mr. Bush and his cabinet? party... whatever, spend half as much time looking after their own country as they do getting involved with other's issues then maybe their economy would be in a better state, the dollar would be stronger, and they'd generally be able to channel their resources more appropriately so as to be able to improve public services, roads and such within their own country.

Working to become a more pleasant Citizen 2.0 : )

[quote][b][user]Citizen1[/user][/b] disse: I love how America are already involved in this. They always have to get involved, don't they? If Mr. Bush and his cabinet? party... whatever, spend half as much time looking after their own country as they do getting involved with other's issues then maybe their economy would be in a better state, the dollar would be stronger, and they'd generally be able to channel their resources more appropriately so as to be able to improve public services, roads and such within their own country.[quote]

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- Majestra disse...
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- Ago 19 2008, 19h49
war has no winner the only winner is the cruelty,tyranny...R.i.p to those who died in this reasonless war

[quote][b][user]Majestra[/user][/b] disse: war has no winner the only winner is the cruelty,tyranny...R.i.p to those who died in this reasonless war[quote]

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- Larsii89 disse...
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- Ago 20 2008, 21h35
Citizen1:

Ofcourse should a big country like USA get involved, same as NATO.
Russia have lied and said there where going to retreat and they wherent.
The soilders have aslo despoilld the city of Gori, a shame.
So why can't USA get involved when Russia do?

[quote][b][user]Larsii89[/user][/b] disse: Citizen1: Ofcourse should a big country like USA get involved, same as NATO. Russia have lied and said there where going to retreat and they wherent. The soilders have aslo despoilld the city of Gori, a shame. So why can't USA get involved when Russia do?[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 21 2008, 7h00
of course a big country like china is involved in iraq. usa have lied and said that iraq's possession of WMDs posed an imminent threat to the security and interests of the usa, europe... oh, and the so-called war on terrorism is also a lie. olol

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: of course a big country like china is involved in iraq. usa have lied and said that iraq's possession of WMDs posed an imminent threat to the security and interests of the usa, europe... oh, and the so-called war on terrorism is also a lie. olol[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 21 2008, 20h14
bald_gye said:
does Russia prove that socialism works? I'm confused...

Russia's as capitalist as we are, maybe more so. Europe on the whole is pretty damn socialist to be fair.

Russia is especially adept at using all the tools of capitalism against us better than we are able to manipulate them ourselves. Gotta give them respect for that, they really know how to beat us at our own game (cf BP being brought down in their Russian enterprises using among other things environmental regulations which weren't being particularly well-followed by BP and every other piece of Russian foreign policy in the last few years)

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]bald_gye[/user][/b] said: does Russia prove that socialism works? I'm confused...[/quote] Russia's as capitalist as we are, maybe more so. Europe on the whole is pretty damn socialist to be fair. Russia is especially adept at using all the tools of capitalism against us better than we are able to manipulate them ourselves. Gotta give them respect for that, they really know how to beat us at our own game (cf BP being brought down in their Russian enterprises using among other things environmental regulations which weren't being particularly well-followed by BP and every other piece of Russian foreign policy in the last few years)[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 21 2008, 20h21
wow no-one's mentioned the Polish missile sheild which suddenly got rushed through a few days ago

"here Poland have these missiles to... protect you from Iran, courtesy George W. Don't worry about Russia saying they're gonna nuke you over it, it's just part of their recent military doctrine to pre-emptively take out nuclear threats. I don't think they really react aggressively to threats anymore. Worst comes to worst we can finally get WWIII out the way"

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: wow no-one's mentioned the Polish missile sheild which suddenly got rushed through a few days ago "here Poland have these missiles to... protect you from Iran, courtesy George W. Don't worry about Russia saying they're gonna nuke you over it, it's just part of their recent military doctrine to pre-emptively take out nuclear threats. I don't think they really react aggressively to threats anymore. Worst comes to worst we can finally get WWIII out the way"[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
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- Ago 22 2008, 22h21
Citizen1 said:
I love how America are already involved in this. They always have to get involved, don't they? If Mr. Bush and his cabinet? party... whatever, spend half as much time looking after their own country as they do getting involved with other's issues then maybe their economy would be in a better state, the dollar would be stronger, and they'd generally be able to channel their resources more appropriately so as to be able to improve public services, roads and such within their own country.

If USA wasn't there to police the world, I think we'd see warfare more brutal than in Iraq or Afghanistan, much more often.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]Citizen1[/user][/b] said: I love how America are already involved in this. They always have to get involved, don't they? If Mr. Bush and his cabinet? party... whatever, spend half as much time looking after their own country as they do getting involved with other's issues then maybe their economy would be in a better state, the dollar would be stronger, and they'd generally be able to channel their resources more appropriately so as to be able to improve public services, roads and such within their own country.[/quote] If USA wasn't there to police the world, I think we'd see warfare more brutal than in Iraq or Afghanistan, much more often.[quote]

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- clayton___X disse...
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- Ago 23 2008, 4h49
your moms in georgia

this is what happens when worlds collide

[quote][b][user]clayton___X[/user][/b] disse: your moms in georgia[quote]

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- brtkrbzhnv disse...
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- Ago 23 2008, 6h34
SigNuM-_- said:
If USA wasn't there to police the world, I think we'd see warfare more brutal than in Iraq or Afghanistan, much more often.
Why do you think so? Do you think the same would happen if Russia stopped policing its neighbourhood?

last.fm#DIV(class=messageSig)

[quote][b][user]brtkrbzhnv[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]SigNuM-_-[/user][/b] said: If USA wasn't there to police the world, I think we'd see warfare more brutal than in Iraq or Afghanistan, much more often.[/quote] Why do you think so? Do you think the same would happen if Russia stopped policing its neighbourhood?[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 23 2008, 8h59
brtkrbzhnv said:
SigNuM-_- said:
If USA wasn't there to police the world, I think we'd see warfare more brutal than in Iraq or Afghanistan, much more often.
Why do you think so? Do you think the same would happen if Russia stopped policing its neighbourhood?

Because USA is a type of deterrent. Smaller nations have to consider the chance that if they invade a country, USA might intervene. Of course they only seem to intervene when they have interests in that country, but it's still something. When they fight a war, they also don't seem to have genocide in their mind, even if the civilian casualties are quite high.

I do, but to a lesser extent. The Russian neighbourhood, aside for Georgia and Chechnya, is quite stable, I believe, and USA would still be there. But I could very well be wrong too. I don't know much about this subject.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]brtkrbzhnv[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]SigNuM-_-[/user][/b] said: If USA wasn't there to police the world, I think we'd see warfare more brutal than in Iraq or Afghanistan, much more often.[/quote] Why do you think so? Do you think the same would happen if Russia stopped policing its neighbourhood?[/quote] Because USA is a type of deterrent. Smaller nations have to consider the chance that if they invade a country, USA might intervene. Of course they only seem to intervene when they have interests in that country, but it's still something. When they fight a war, they also don't seem to have genocide in their mind, even if the civilian casualties are quite high. I do, but to a lesser extent. The Russian neighbourhood, aside for Georgia and Chechnya, is quite stable, I believe, and USA would still be there. But I could very well be wrong too. I don't know much about this subject.[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 23 2008, 16h50
yeah but the USA are invading many countries... UNO should intervene not the USA (or any other country) / NATO....

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: yeah but the USA are invading many countries... UNO should intervene not the USA (or any other country) / NATO.... [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg[/youtube][quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 24 2008, 9h22
BlackBloc said:
yeah but the USA are invading many countries... UNO should intervene not the USA (or any other country) / NATO....

That just might be (if by UNO you mean UN). But I don't think UN really has what it takes to intervene. Too much bureaucracy and disagreeing opinions - too much politics. But I don't really disagree with you about how things ought to be. It's just that they are not.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]BlackBloc[/user][/b] said: yeah but the USA are invading many countries... UNO should intervene not the USA (or any other country) / NATO.... [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg[/youtube][/quote] That just might be (if by UNO you mean UN). But I don't think UN really has what it takes to intervene. Too much bureaucracy and disagreeing opinions - too much politics. But I don't really disagree with you about how things ought to be. It's just that they are not.[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 26 2008, 8h28
Fighting Dirty: Pictures to Provoke Hatred and More Suffering

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: [url=http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/08/deceiving_the_world_with_pictu.html]Fighting Dirty: Pictures to Provoke Hatred and More Suffering[/url] [quote]

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- brtkrbzhnv disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 26 2008, 11h16
BlackBloc said:
Fighting Dirty: Pictures to Provoke Hatred and More Suffering

… while Russia plays the Jew card:

Media wars are fun!
Real wars – not so much.

last.fm#DIV(class=messageSig)

[quote][b][user]brtkrbzhnv[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]BlackBloc[/user][/b] said: [url=http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/08/deceiving_the_world_with_pictu.html]Fighting Dirty: Pictures to Provoke Hatred and More Suffering[/url] [/quote] … while Russia plays the Jew card: [url=http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/29294] [img]http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1723/20080826130913xo8.png[/img] [/url] Media wars are fun! Real wars – not so much.[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Ago 27 2008, 8h46
russians/georgians media are obviously biased just like most (all?) of the western mainstream media...

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: russians/georgians media are obviously biased just like most (all?) of the western mainstream media...[quote]

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- [Usuário excluído] disse...
- Usuário
- Set 3 2008, 0h51
I think the United Staes should move the troops out of Iraq and Into Georgia! Lets see how bad the Russians really are! After all the weapons of mass destruction weren't in Iraq they are in Russia!!!!!!! I am a democrat ha ha ha ha ha Let the good times roll we are the new Roman Empire.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] disse: I think the United Staes should move the troops out of Iraq and Into Georgia! Lets see how bad the Russians really are! After all the weapons of mass destruction weren't in Iraq they are in Russia!!!!!!! I am a democrat ha ha ha ha ha Let the good times roll we are the new Roman Empire.[quote]

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- SpoonfedMusic disse...
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- Set 11 2008, 16h45
This really does have world war three potential. I'm rather scared. And why have Russia finally lost it and decided to do everything to piss off everyone else? Too much Vodka in their cereal?

Music.Art.Comedy.Theatre.Spoonfed.

[quote][b][user]SpoonfedMusic[/user][/b] disse: This really does have world war three potential. I'm rather scared. And why have Russia finally lost it and decided to do everything to piss off everyone else? Too much Vodka in their cereal?[quote]

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