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  • Dublin dole office bans those in pyjamas

    Fuck sake...PUT SOME FUCKING CLOTHES ON!

    I'd feel insulted if I was addressed by someone in pajamas when they have perfectly good clothes at home...



    BBC

    A social welfare office in Dublin has banned interviewees from wearing pyjamas.

    A notice has appeared at Damastown social welfare office which warns claimants that "pyjamas are not regarded as appropriate attire when attending Community Welfare Service at these offices".

    It is believed the decision was made after a number of people complained.


    Read More: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16740199

    "Or shall I perhaps know, That I was happy oft and oft before, Or must I be content with discontent..." - Edward Thomas, The Glory
    • lawynd disse...
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    • Jan 27 2012, 16h27
    Did you see my FB reply to my Irish friend that linked this? I'd be fucking ashamed.

    Official recorder of Schrödinger's Tampon.

    Quote of the moment - selfsurprise:
    "My rolo yoghurt pots bring 'dem kids to the yard, and i'm like 'its better than ya'lls'
    yer damn right its better than ya'lls'
    I can teach you but i'll have to charge (+VAT, duty stamp tax, etc et all)"
  • Going shopping in Tesco's in PJ's
    Dropping off/collecting??? Their children from School in Pyjamas.
    Now this.

    Sane people like this have no respect for themselves or others, but this is also a sign of mental illness in some people.

    "I never picked cotton"
    • [Usuário excluído] disse...
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    • Jan 27 2012, 20h51
    My Sims doo dat (their traits are insane, inappropriate, daredevil, and nevernude)

    Worse still, they sleep in formalwear and swim in athletic wear...

  • mickeymay1968 said:
    Going shopping in Tesco's in PJ's
    Dropping off/collecting??? Their children from School in Pyjamas.
    Now this.

    Sane people like this have no respect for themselves or others, but this is also a sign of mental illness in some people.

    Why does this even matter? I don't really go outside in my pj's (in some extreme cases I do) but what is with all this hate towards probably a small minority of people that choose to do this. They aren't harming anyone.

    I can understand why this office did it and it is wrong that people should have been allowed to it in the first place, although I have gone to work before in pj's though, under my jumpsuit.

  • yellowcarpet said:
    Why does this even matter? I don't really go outside in my pj's (in some extreme cases I do) but what is with all this hate towards probably a small minority of people that choose to do this.


    I dunno about Dublin, but in Belfast it is not a small minority. Especially West Belfast. It's unsightly. We know 1 in 10 of you are on the dole, but don't rub it in our faces!

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    • Bloopy disse...
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    • Jan 28 2012, 6h11
    The kind of slobs that people are complaining about are probably going to be unsightly and unclean regardless of what they're wearing. It's probably unfair to blame the pyjamas.

    Bare feet are popular in the city where I was born, but frowned upon the city where I live now. It's quite a surprising difference.

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    • sgath92 disse...
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    • Jan 28 2012, 17h06
    The state of Louisiana has considered banning pjs in public.

    I don't hold this "fashion" fad in high regard. I think the people of walmart summed it up pretty well:



    You ever hit that point where you question our entire population as a species? I mean I was at the tipping point with the Snuggie, but now we are so spoiled and lazy that even a Snuggie is inconvenient?!?! We have to have onesies now? Really? Hell, they aren’t even trying to be cute with the name, they call the damn thing Forever Lazy! Wow! “Hey fat lazy Americans, now you don’t have to change your clothes at all.” Wow!


    That's pretty much how I feel about this. If you're going out in public, put some clothes on.

  • The second woman's pj's would pass for an acceptable outfit for a night out in many a Belfast club!

    We learned more from a 3-minute record, baby than we ever learned in school
  • Bleh, stupid double post.

    We learned more from a 3-minute record, baby than we ever learned in school
    Editado por EmptySkyXD em Jan 28 2012, 17h41
  • sgath92 said:
    The state of Louisiana has considered banning pjs in public.

    How are you supposed to define what is pyjamas and what isn't though? It can be ambiguous.

  • yellowcarpet said:
    mickeymay1968 said:
    Going shopping in Tesco's in PJ's
    Dropping off/collecting??? Their children from School in Pyjamas.
    Now this.

    Sane people like this have no respect for themselves or others, but this is also a sign of mental illness in some people.

    Why does this even matter? I don't really go outside in my pj's (in some extreme cases I do) but what is with all this hate towards probably a small minority of people that choose to do this. They aren't harming anyone.

    I can understand why this office did it and it is wrong that people should have been allowed to it in the first place, although I have gone to work before in pj's though, under my jumpsuit.



    I don't hate them yellowcarpet, but it makes you wonder what the kids are thinking when Mum or Dad drop them off at school in their PJ's.

    "I never picked cotton"
  • yellowcarpet said:
    mickeymay1968 said:
    Going shopping in Tesco's in PJ's
    Dropping off/collecting??? Their children from School in Pyjamas.
    Now this.

    Sane people like this have no respect for themselves or others, but this is also a sign of mental illness in some people.

    Why does this even matter? I don't really go outside in my pj's (in some extreme cases I do) but what is with all this hate towards probably a small minority of people that choose to do this. They aren't harming anyone.

    I can understand why this office did it and it is wrong that people should have been allowed to it in the first place, although I have gone to work before in pj's though, under my jumpsuit.
    If an interviewer was wearing pyjamas I'd be insulted.

    They should have the common decency to wear clothes out, expected of people on these islands.

    I don't hate them but they don't do our communities any favours by showing their slovenliness.

    "Or shall I perhaps know, That I was happy oft and oft before, Or must I be content with discontent..." - Edward Thomas, The Glory
  • DaddyPobbin said:
    If an interviewer was wearing pyjamas I'd be insulted.

    They should have the common decency to wear clothes out, expected of people on these islands.

    I don't hate them but they don't do our communities any favours by showing their slovenliness.

    Yeah like an interviewer should have to dress properly. But why is it others peoples business to care about people wearing pj''s outside, why should we care what people wear when they are shopping?

    • sgath92 disse...
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    • Jan 29 2012, 3h48
    yellowcarpet said:
    DaddyPobbin said:
    If an interviewer was wearing pyjamas I'd be insulted.

    They should have the common decency to wear clothes out, expected of people on these islands.

    I don't hate them but they don't do our communities any favours by showing their slovenliness.

    Yeah like an interviewer should have to dress properly. But why is it others peoples business to care about people wearing pj''s outside, why should we care what people wear when they are shopping?


    Depends on what the business is.

    If I were running a "fancy" restaurant, I might have a dresscode for the customers in order to preserve the decorum & atmosphere of the establishment. If too many people off the street were being admitted under-dressed it could negatively impact the business by making the place seem more casual than what my clientele wants.

    You see the same things with some high end boutiques. If they start letting flagrantly under-dressed in off the streets the regulars who want the fancier atmosphere would start going someplace else. I know of some goth clubs that have dresscodes to try to keep the 'tourists' from coming in droves to qawk. I don't know about in Europe but over here even mcdonalds has "no shirt, no shoes, no service" signs on their doors. Is it fair? If someone doesn't like it, they can always choose to go somewhere else.

    That option doesn't really work when we're talking about government services instead of private businesses so let me pose a question for you: When you have to go to court over there do they expect you to look presentable or are pj's tolerated?

    You can be charged for contempt of court showing up in pj's in the US. How "dressy" they want you to be depends on the court [some are pretty lax but others want you dressed in business attire as if you were working in a corporate office setting]. It's a matter of respect for yourself, the process, and everyone around you. It really doesn't seem that extreme to me to expect people dealing with government services to "bother getting dressed" first.

    • lawynd disse...
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    • Jan 29 2012, 10h13
    It's pretty simple; if they can't be bothered to get dressed, is it likely they'll bother going to or keeping a job, or even searching for one? Cut their benefits the lazy fucks, then see how many do it.

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    "My rolo yoghurt pots bring 'dem kids to the yard, and i'm like 'its better than ya'lls'
    yer damn right its better than ya'lls'
    I can teach you but i'll have to charge (+VAT, duty stamp tax, etc et all)"
    • FWBTS disse...
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    • Jan 29 2012, 10h17
    yellowcarpet said:
    sgath92 said:
    The state of Louisiana has considered banning pjs in public.

    How are you supposed to define what is pyjamas and what isn't though? It can be ambiguous.


    No it can't. Pyjamas were decided to be worn in bed, and therefore look slightly different to any "normal" form of clothing that you would wear out in public. Plus I think there's quite a wide consensus as to what Pj's are.

    • FWBTS disse...
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    • Jan 29 2012, 10h17
    * Designed to be worn in bed.

  • FWBTS said:
    yellowcarpet said:
    sgath92 said:
    The state of Louisiana has considered banning pjs in public.

    How are you supposed to define what is pyjamas and what isn't though? It can be ambiguous.


    No it can't. Pyjamas were decided to be worn in bed, and therefore look slightly different to any "normal" form of clothing that you would wear out in public. Plus I think there's quite a wide consensus as to what Pj's are.
    Exactly, and yes sgath, turning up in court unkempt or in a tracksuit can find you of contempt of court. At least here there are instances of that.

    I think yellowcarpet is being contrary to be honest. The article is about people showing up to a dole office to sign on. The specific nature of that is to get you used to showing up on time, dressed suitably, like going to an interview and showing your wiliness to work.

    I'm surprised that they haven't done something before now about the dresscode. Surely pyjamas shows a lack of work ethic (this can expand into whether your an employee, employer or self-employed) and that you're not worthy of benefits.

    If a plumber turned up at my house in pyjamas (again with the examples) would you be referring them on to friends? Your business would be a joke, you'd get no clients. Just because people on the dole don't have jobs currently doesn't mean they shouldn't take things a bit more seriously.

    It's only pyjamas they have a problem with. It's not like they're telling people to show up in ties and trousers.

    "Or shall I perhaps know, That I was happy oft and oft before, Or must I be content with discontent..." - Edward Thomas, The Glory
    • lawynd disse...
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    • Jan 30 2012, 21h53
    DaddyPobbin said:
    It's only pyjamas they have a problem with. It's not like they're telling people to show up in ties and trousers.
    To be honest, I'd have zero problems with that. If people take pride in one aspect of their lives, it can have a beneficial effect on others.

    Official recorder of Schrödinger's Tampon.

    Quote of the moment - selfsurprise:
    "My rolo yoghurt pots bring 'dem kids to the yard, and i'm like 'its better than ya'lls'
    yer damn right its better than ya'lls'
    I can teach you but i'll have to charge (+VAT, duty stamp tax, etc et all)"
  • DaddyPobbin said:
    I think yellowcarpet is being contrary to be honest. The article is about people showing up to a dole office to sign on. The specific nature of that is to get you used to showing up on time, dressed suitably, like going to an interview and showing your wiliness to work.

    Since you are clearly criticizing me, I feel I should clarify me views on this subject. First of all I misread the article thinking that is talking the people that work at the office that wore pj's not the interviewees, my mistake.

    Seconding I was criticizing the fact that people take such offence at people wearing pj's through opinions, such as this:

    mickeymay1968 said:
    Going shopping in Tesco's in PJ's
    Dropping off/collecting??? Their children from School in Pyjamas.
    Now this.

    Sane people like this have no respect for themselves or others, but this is also a sign of mental illness in some people.

    Why do people feel it so morally awful that others choose to where pyjamas outside.

    I mean, private businesses can make whatever rules they want on what to they allow their customers to wear and what do not allow. But why should be bothered with this and be so hateful about it.

    FWBTS said:
    yellowcarpet said:
    sgath92 said:
    The state of Louisiana has considered banning pjs in public.

    How are you supposed to define what is pyjamas and what isn't though? It can be ambiguous.


    No it can't. Pyjamas were decided to be worn in bed, and therefore look slightly different to any "normal" form of clothing that you would wear out in public. Plus I think there's quite a wide consensus as to what Pj's are.

    And by this one I mean, while it may be obvious to us, I could be quite difficult to actually come up with a legal position, when banning pj's.

    • sgath92 disse...
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    • Fev 1 2012, 4h08
    lawynd said:
    DaddyPobbin said:
    It's only pyjamas they have a problem with. It's not like they're telling people to show up in ties and trousers.
    To be honest, I'd have zero problems with that. If people take pride in one aspect of their lives, it can have a beneficial effect on others.


    I don't know, I think once you start spelling stuff like that out so specifically, you're just going to end up with bureaucrats sending people dressed well home because of something stupid like forgetting to wear a tie "because rules are rules." If someone put an effort to looking presentable for the interview, they're going to know it even if the person is wearing a nice sweater instead of a shirt with a tie. That's why here if you get jury duty in a court where they care about how you look they'll say "business attire" with a phone number to call if someone doesn't understand what they mean by that. Is someone wearing something that would be ok in a business-office setting? Yes? Then its not an issue with that person and shouldn't be nit-picked. Save the conversation for someone who comes in, say, flip flops.

    • lawynd disse...
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    • Fev 1 2012, 11h58
    I don't see what's wrong with specifying a shirt and tie; plenty of business environments do just that. People seem to have no respect for themselves any more - everyone used to own a suit and it was something to be proud of.

    Official recorder of Schrödinger's Tampon.

    Quote of the moment - selfsurprise:
    "My rolo yoghurt pots bring 'dem kids to the yard, and i'm like 'its better than ya'lls'
    yer damn right its better than ya'lls'
    I can teach you but i'll have to charge (+VAT, duty stamp tax, etc et all)"
  • I don't think it's right to go further than your front gate in your PJ's (putting out the rubbish etc, etc). There's no excuse for it either.

    "I never picked cotton"
  • Let me just clarify about what my original post said about mental health problems What I meant was, people who have mental health issues ie:

    Dementia,depression, etc, etc, can be easily spotted when it affects a persons dress sense in this way.
    If it becomes a regular, mundane habit because people are lazy it, will confuse this symptom.
    .
    People with mental issues may also be put into that category, and any alarm bells will be ignored, just as car alarms are today.

    "I never picked cotton"
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