Where is 'Find friends' now?

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- gwalla disse...
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- Mai 9 2009, 2h29
RiotGrrrlCS said:
I was talking to two friends today and I told them "I'll send you an invite to last.fm" and then I remembered it is not possible yet...Sure it's possible. There's this thing called email... :P

[quote][b][user]gwalla[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]RiotGrrrlCS[/user][/b] said: I was talking to two friends today and I told them "I'll send you an invite to last.fm" and then I remembered it is not possible yet...[/quote]Sure it's possible. There's this thing called email... :P[quote]

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- dustinhansen disse...
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- Mai 11 2009, 22h54
It's really disappointing this feature's been "Coming Soon" for over a year at least now. Every other social networking site out there has this feature as standard yet this site (which was bought for close to $300 million if I remember correctly?) can't do it. Here's hoping we see the feature soon.

[quote][b][user]dustinhansen[/user][/b] disse: It's really disappointing this feature's been "Coming Soon" for over a year at least now. Every other social networking site out there has this feature as standard yet this site (which was bought for close to $300 million if I remember correctly?) can't do it. Here's hoping we see the feature soon.[quote]

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- invisibleink27 disse...
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- Mai 13 2009, 15h03
BRING IT BACK! We've waited too long...

[quote][b][user]invisibleink27[/user][/b] disse: BRING IT BACK! We've waited too long...[quote]

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- mewithoutjean disse...
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- Mai 13 2009, 16h16
as a subscriber, i feel disrespected. this is ridiculous how something as simple as a contact importer is not present. I WILL NOT be renewing my subscription with Last.fm again.

[quote][b][user]mewithoutjean[/user][/b] disse: as a subscriber, i feel disrespected. this is ridiculous how something as simple as a contact importer is not present. I WILL NOT be renewing my subscription with Last.fm again.[quote]

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- lilou_b disse...
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- Mai 16 2009, 13h17
every month i come back and check, and month after month, will it soon by years? the feature is not there. i remember reading staff saying there was no ETA on this feature, so i am unsure why i am still hoping. maybe something like "surely, they will realise that not having it will make them less competitive" but no.

[quote][b][user]lilou_b[/user][/b] disse: every month i come back and check, and month after month, will it soon by years? the feature is not there. i remember reading staff saying there was no ETA on this feature, so i am unsure why i am still hoping. maybe something like "surely, they will realise that not having it will make them less competitive" but no.[quote]

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- MARTIJNLAFITT disse...
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- Mai 17 2009, 9h14
+1

[quote][b][user]MARTIJNLAFITT[/user][/b] disse: +1[quote]

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- Pryce1 disse...
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- Mai 18 2009, 18h40
just joined this site! i agree very amaetur! i mean i dony use facebook out of principal (that im extremley stubborn) but seriously a better friend finder is the first thing a site like this should do

[quote][b][user]Pryce1[/user][/b] disse: just joined this site! i agree very amaetur! i mean i dony use facebook out of principal (that im extremley stubborn) but seriously a better friend finder is the first thing a site like this should do[quote]

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- kogz disse...
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- Mai 19 2009, 10h03
This waiting drives me mad.. It's ridiculous...

[quote][b][user]kogz[/user][/b] disse: This waiting drives me mad.. It's ridiculous...[quote]

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- ainsworth_2 disse...
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- Mai 20 2009, 10h11
Come on !

[quote][b][user]ainsworth_2[/user][/b] disse: Come on ![quote]

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- web-knows disse...
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- Mai 21 2009, 20h29
Sounds true:
too many sorrys. too little work. apparently.

[quote][b][user]web-knows[/user][/b] disse: Sounds true: [quote]too many sorrys. too little work. apparently.[/quote][quote]

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- juhanharm disse...
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- Mai 21 2009, 21h56
not trying to create a revolution here but ...

maybe we could either move to another site (what's the best alternative out there?) or add pressure to last.fm staff so they would bring "find friends" back

[quote][b][user]juhanharm[/user][/b] disse: not trying to create a revolution here but ... maybe we could either move to another site (what's the best alternative out there?) or add pressure to last.fm staff so they would bring "find friends" back[quote]

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- juhanharm disse...
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- Mai 21 2009, 22h15
also, does someone know how last.fm stores its data?
would it somehow be possible to download listening history and transfer it to some other site

if you have used last.fm (or some other service) for a while you are somewhat sticked to it. unless willing to discard listening history, profile etc you can't change the service.
thinking about it now i can see that the data must be freely transferable in the future. just like mobile numbers became freely transferable between carriers, personal data will do the same

[quote][b][user]juhanharm[/user][/b] disse: also, does someone know how last.fm stores its data? would it somehow be possible to download listening history and transfer it to some other site if you have used last.fm (or some other service) for a while you are somewhat sticked to it. unless willing to discard listening history, profile etc you can't change the service. thinking about it now i can see that the data must be freely transferable in the future. just like mobile numbers became freely transferable between carriers, personal data will do the same[quote]

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- gwalla disse...
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- Mai 22 2009, 6h20
How they store the data is irrelevant, because they're not going to give you direct access to the database (that would be insane). It may be possible to slurp down all of your account data via the API, though.

[quote][b][user]gwalla[/user][/b] disse: How they store the data is irrelevant, because they're not going to give you direct access to the database (that would be insane). It may be possible to slurp down all of your account data via the API, though.[quote]

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- alexmuller disse...
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- Mai 22 2009, 7h44
You can't pull your entire listening history, as far as I know. But it's a totally irrelevant point, because (correct me if I'm wrong) there's no services that let you import any data.

Besides, I'm still pretty much convinced that Last.fm is the best out there. I'm going nowhere, even if it is a real shame this feature still isn't back.

http://alex.mullr.net/blog

[quote][b][user]alexmuller[/user][/b] disse: You can't pull your [b]entire[/b] listening history, as far as I know. But it's a totally irrelevant point, because (correct me if I'm wrong) there's no services that let you import any data. Besides, I'm still pretty much convinced that Last.fm is the best out there. I'm going nowhere, even if it is a real shame this feature still isn't back.[quote]

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- mewithoutjean disse...
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- Mai 24 2009, 17h03
Still waiting....

[quote][b][user]mewithoutjean[/user][/b] disse: Still waiting....[quote]

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- attard5081 disse...
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- Mai 24 2009, 17h28
its about time.

[quote][b][user]attard5081[/user][/b] disse: its about time.[quote]

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- juhanharm disse...
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- Mai 24 2009, 18h06
gwalla, alexmuller,
thanks for the reply. i agree that direct access is insane; that currently no other service accepts data (as no data is available) and; that last.fm is the best one out there. stats, radio etc are working quite well but social features are missing. friend finder is just one thing among many. last.fm could have better integration with social networks (facebook, orkut)

as last.fm is privately held company, i don't know their exact performance figures. but i think that they are missing out on some oppurtunities. when speaking about friend finder, linkedin got (and probably still is) 90% of their new members through e-mail invites from other members. friend finder / inviter + better integration with social networks could do wonders here.

also last.fm lacks proper desktop app. i am doing manual reset to the scrobbler at least once a week - somehow it stops syncing my listening history. their new online radio looks quite nice but nothing for desktop or symbian. i am not using iphone so i can't comment that. but services like spotify are taking their part of the pie and last.fm is clearly the loosing side here.

gwalla,
i thought about the API also.

i'll rest my case here. in general i am happy with last.fm but just can't believe that "coming soon" equals 10+ months for them. substandard, just like politics in my native country estonia :)
would like to know what is causing this holdup

[quote][b][user]juhanharm[/user][/b] disse: gwalla, alexmuller, thanks for the reply. i agree that direct access is insane; that currently no other service accepts data (as no data is available) and; that last.fm is the best one out there. stats, radio etc are working quite well but social features are missing. friend finder is just one thing among many. last.fm could have better integration with social networks (facebook, orkut) as last.fm is privately held company, i don't know their exact performance figures. but i think that they are missing out on some oppurtunities. when speaking about friend finder, linkedin got (and probably still is) 90% of their new members through e-mail invites from other members. friend finder / inviter + better integration with social networks could do wonders here. also last.fm lacks proper desktop app. i am doing manual reset to the scrobbler at least once a week - somehow it stops syncing my listening history. their new online radio looks quite nice but nothing for desktop or symbian. i am not using iphone so i can't comment that. but services like spotify are taking their part of the pie and last.fm is clearly the loosing side here. gwalla, i thought about the API also. i'll rest my case here. in general i am happy with last.fm but just can't believe that "coming soon" equals 10+ months for them. substandard, just like politics in my native country estonia :) would like to know what is causing this holdup [quote]

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- RiotGrrrlCS disse...
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- Mai 24 2009, 22h50
gwalla said:
RiotGrrrlCS said:
I was talking to two friends today and I told them "I'll send you an invite to last.fm" and then I remembered it is not possible yet...Sure it's possible. There's this thing called email... :P

Lolol, I am very aware there is a thing called email. However, from my experience (with my friends at least) if I send them an email directly saying "you should sign up to last.fm!" they simply won't, mainly because people really don't want to take the time to sign up on sites and install software from them. BUT, if I send them some generated email inviting them to last.fm, an official last.fm email, through last.fm, they are ALOT more likely to sign up.

That's just the way most people work, and that's why a contact importer or invite option is crucial on this site.

I've read last.fm staff say the feature is not available yet because it wasn't very good when it was available so they are making it alot better. I understand that, but I just can't understand why they had to completely take it away. They could leave the old contact importer working until they actually had a new better one to exchange it with. Even if they say the old contact importer wasn't good, it was way way way better than nothing.

[quote][b][user]RiotGrrrlCS[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]gwalla[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]RiotGrrrlCS[/user][/b] said: I was talking to two friends today and I told them "I'll send you an invite to last.fm" and then I remembered it is not possible yet...[/quote]Sure it's possible. There's this thing called email... :P[/quote] Lolol, I am very aware there is a thing called email. However, from my experience (with my friends at least) if I send them an email directly saying "you should sign up to last.fm!" they simply won't, mainly because people really don't want to take the time to sign up on sites and install software from them. BUT, if I send them some generated email inviting them to last.fm, an official last.fm email, through last.fm, they are ALOT more likely to sign up. That's just the way most people work, and that's why a contact importer or invite option is crucial on this site. I've read last.fm staff say the feature is not available yet because it wasn't very good when it was available so they are making it alot better. I understand that, but I just can't understand why they had to completely take it away. They could leave the old contact importer working until they actually had a new better one to exchange it with. Even if they say the old contact importer wasn't good, it was way way way better than nothing.[quote]
Editado por RiotGrrrlCS em Mai 24 2009, 23h00

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- alexmuller disse...
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- Mai 24 2009, 22h55
juhanharm, you'll appreciate this so much. It's a forum post from the Last.fm CTO stating that data exporting features are coming soon. That said, 'friend finding' has been "coming soon" too... :p

http://alex.mullr.net/blog

[quote][b][user]alexmuller[/user][/b] disse: [b]juhanharm[/b], you'll appreciate [url=http://www.last.fm/forum/21717/_/535934/_/9532408]this[/url] so much. It's a forum post from the Last.fm CTO stating that data exporting features are coming soon. That said, 'friend finding' has been "coming soon" too... :p[quote]

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- gwalla disse...
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- Mai 25 2009, 0h42
juhanharm said:
i'll rest my case here. in general i am happy with last.fm but just can't believe that "coming soon" equals 10+ months for them.
Likewise for re-importing user recommendations from before the site switch. "Soon" for Recommended Reading was about a year (and counting, technically, since it's still at a pre-official-release stage). Last.FM may be on the Internet but it doesn't seem to run on Internet time.

[quote][b][user]gwalla[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]juhanharm[/user][/b] said: i'll rest my case here. in general i am happy with last.fm but just can't believe that "coming soon" equals 10+ months for them. [/quote]Likewise for re-importing user recommendations from before the site switch. "Soon" for Recommended Reading was about a year (and counting, technically, since it's still at a pre-official-release stage). Last.FM may be on the Internet but it doesn't seem to run on Internet time.[quote]

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- monclo disse...
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- Mai 25 2009, 1h47
bring it backkkkkkkkkkkk

[quote][b][user]monclo[/user][/b] disse: bring it backkkkkkkkkkkk[quote]

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- Kelly_Green disse...
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- Mai 27 2009, 4h46
Is anyone even working on this? This is a pretty basic feature to ignore, especially considering that one of Last.fm's biggest advantages over services like Pandora is the social aspect.

[quote][b][user]Kelly_Green[/user][/b] disse: Is anyone even working on this? This is a pretty basic feature to ignore, especially considering that one of Last.fm's biggest advantages over services like Pandora is the social aspect. [quote]

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- AppleKabukiSuri disse...
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- Mai 27 2009, 5h03
Don't bring it back.

[quote][b][user]AppleKabukiSuri[/user][/b] disse: Don't bring it back.[quote]

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- Pezmc disse...
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- Jun 2 2009, 12h39
Pez

Bring it please! Very useful as someone who is new!

[quote][b][user]Pezmc[/user][/b] disse: Bring it please! Very useful as someone who is new![quote]

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- musicgodlything disse...
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- Jun 2 2009, 13h27
gwalla said:
Last.FM may be on the Internet but it doesn't seem to run on Internet time. While that is not technically a breach of netiquette, it is definitely not cricket.

[quote][b][user]musicgodlything[/user][/b] disse: [quote][b][user]gwalla[/user][/b] said: Last.FM may be on the Internet but it doesn't seem to run on Internet time.[/quote] While that is not technically a breach of netiquette, it is definitely not cricket.[quote]

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