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argonianslave said:
@ Saf2: If you have nothing useful to contribute to the topic, don't post at all.
totally agree. the only thing more pathetic than a troll is a troll wannabe.

fmera said:
the only thing more pathetic than a troll is a troll wannabe.

argonianslave said:
If you have nothing useful to contribute to the topic, don't post at all.

argonianslave said:
It's NOT harming anyone except the really uptight users who can't take a joke.

Saf was referring to a replacement picture for a previously removed group avatar.

Just sayin'..

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Hey Tsatthoggua,

The image in question has been removed due to user complaints. We have agreed that it was excessively offensive and inappropriate for use as a Last.fm group picture. I will appreciate it if you respect our decision and not upload it again.

Thanks.

Of course I will not upload it again as long as I don't get green light but I wonder what's so bad about a woman covered with ketchup and having a piece of wood in her mouth:



Is it worse than having a picture of a real murder as avatar?

What about this one:



This is a picture of a real murder, used as an album cover and available on last.fm. There are even buy links for that one and besides every little child could get this album if it knows where (atm I know three sources where I could buy it legally in Germany).

So a picture of a dead person with opened skull, brain besides his body and a bloody knife and shotgun besides him isn't worse than a ketchup covered woman with wood in her mouth? Please explain that to me.

And besides, total agreement with argonianslave: Making fun of 20 million systematically killed people isn't worse than a fotograph of a model representing the fall of a religion. Do you think different?

argonianslave sa:
Just when was "Fuck You Christ"'s old avatar offensive? Go look around the internet for that same photo...if you notice, it's just an actor posing for it.
Wait. Are you seriously asking us to "go look around the internet" for some avatar? It's pretty big these days, you know.

No, but seriously: you should have linked to it, since I personally had no idea what image it was. Doesn't matter now though, since Tsatt did instead.

tsatthoggua sa:
Would be nice if Last.fm Staff could give us an explanation for that. The group avatar is familiar to them since more than half a year. A German mod worked on my request to appoint another user second leader for this group and the now removed ava pic already existed then. He commented on it saying smth like "nice avatar" (which is obviously ironic) but he didn't say it is against Last.fm rules.

I wonder if Last.fm changed the rules in the past six months, can't remember that that happened...

These rules are subjective. Of course rules should never be subjective, but it's really impossible to avoid in cases like this. And sometimes we're just busy, or decide to not do anything about something for whatever reason. We're human, it happens.

tsatthoggua sa:
I don't think it takes you 24 hours to think about what answer to give me and some of you have posted on different threads meanwhile so you oviously have noticed our complaint

With a thread title like this, I don't think it's that difficult to believe that we simply missed it. If it's something that you really want to discuss, sending a PM never hurts.

argonianslave sa:
What about people using Nazi symbolism, are you going to allow groups or users with pro-Nazi images on or leave them for some double-standard?

I mean for those openly proclaming they hate Jews/blacks/Asian/etc.

I hope this does not come to favoritism by permitting Nazi or other hate symbolism and not allowing something as our old avatar to not be permitted. I would be very disappointed to see if people with stuff like that to remain if we were forced to remove our old avatar.
BAAAAWWWWWW? Ok, serious again: there's a difference. Symbols are symbols, pictures are pictures. If your avatar had been some crappy MS Paint job, I don't think anyone would have minded it (at least we wouldn't had done anything about it even if they did). That avatar though, despite being fake, looks like it could be real. But maybe I'm biased, since I know there are people who are very offended by symbols as well (although I don't believe you're one of them, I think you're just trying to make a point. Which you are, don't worry) and we're constantly contacted by those, being asked to remove nazi symbols from all corners of the site. And yeah, I can understand them to an extent, but we have very strict rules about that (IE don't do anything about them unless people are actively being harassed, basically).

And tsatthoggua's last post: yeah, that's difficult. But as I said earlier, that fake avatar can(in that low resolution anyway) look just as real as the real album cover. So I'm not sure how much it really matters for someone looking at it. I think we've removed avatars containing gory scenes from movies before. I'm not sure though, and as I said, it's difficult.

No, I know what BAAWWW is, I was just saying it seemed to me like you were BAAWWWWing a bit. I added a question mark to make it not seem as harsh, since I'm a mod and has to be responsible and not feed the flaming and what not.

I can't say much else about this though, since I didn't deal with it. Although I did deal with a guy who had that same picture as his avatar, but that's pretty irrelevant. I personally don't think it has to do with the cross or symbology itself though, rather the blood and gore. Maybe that's not what they complained about, but I'm fairly certain that's why it was removed.

And yeah, thanks. :D We're pretty awesome. Quiet, but awesome.